From: guest (Scipio)
, 126 months, post #21 |
Regarding the speed of Lola's change from masculine to feminine, I
agree that that common mistake in sex-change works is done in
Lalola. But look how many writers of Internet tg fiction make the
same mistake. They can't wait to have their hero act girly. The
best stories are the one that have a long process of personality
evolution. It beats me why so many professionals and so many
amateurs who want to write a story about a guy who changes into a
girl really are writing just about a girl, except for a mostly
irrelevant starting point.|
But regarding Lalola, a lot of it depends on which version you are
talking about. YouTube has mostly the Argentinean and Philippine
Lalola, with a decent number the Spanish. They change fast. But if
you look up "El Ă© Ela" (the Brazilian) you also get a fair number
of finds. In it, the early Lola is brash and physical, and does not
appear in dresses. She watches girls hungrily. To watch a girl like
that be progressively feminized would be fun. But I have not had
time to check out mid- and later episodes; I've been concentrating
on the Spanish Lola lately. She isn't as pretty as most of her
sisters, but she's not ugly and she's a talented comedienne who can
also play a tender and passionate scene. She really comes off as an
anguishing woman in love in the last shows. I think she gets the
choice to be a man or stay a woman. The decision is hard for her,
because she's in love.
There is so physically much Lalola that it makes one's head spin.
Who could ever expect that so many nations would put out this story
almost at the same time? It's a phenomenon that is never talked
about. I actually never heard of it until this fall. This is one of
the rare situations for someone looking for interesting TG, to
discover that there is not too little, but too much. Why are people
talking so much about a D-rated movie, IDENTITY THEFT, which has a
poor ending I hear, when there is too much of this high-quality
Lalola material to assimilate? I hope these foreign nations come
out with DVDs. If they do, they will want the Anglo market and will
at least have subtitles. Why shouldn't they? They need to make
money, and they don't seem to be embarrassed by the work, like
American studios seem to be embarrassed about, say, TURNABOUT back
in the 70's. It was never revived for DVD's. (Okay, it was a rotten
handling of the material, but that's not the point). THE LAST
PRECINCT was a good comedy that featured a beautiful transgendered
cop. The audience shunned it and the production company has never
put it out in DVD (about 10 episodes, I think).
So far, the Philippine version of Lalola has the best ending I've
so far found. She is also a charming young actress. The worst
cinematography, to judge from the quality of the scant material on
the net, is in the Indonesian Lalola. Next worse in that way is the
Chilean Lalola, which is called "Lola." If that really was a clip
from the final chapter I saw, it appears that the ending would
disappoint most people. I won't say more to be a spoiler. After
seeing that much, I'll leave the Chile story for last, if ever.
After seeing the Philippine ending, tho, I want to see the whole
series, anticipating where it's going.
, 126 months, post #22 |
Dear Scipio, Thanks for the info on the Lalo's around the world. My
personal favorite so far has been the original one from Argentina,
good production values and for me the best actress/comedian.|
But why the slam against IDENTITY THEFT? Especially since you admit
you've never seen it? Strange to rate something you've never seen.
I for one think it has terrific endings - for me there is more than
There is no reason why we can't like both. You seem to think not to
love Lalo best is a somehow a crime. I'd love to have say the one
from Argentina available on DVD with subtitles & I would buy it.
Just as I have bought Se Eu Fosse VocĂȘ a body swap comedy from
Brazil. Which incidently doesn't have much comment here.
, 126 months, post #23 |
Lola would have been better if the Lola would have worn more skirts
and dresses. I did like it that the guy fought the transformation
and did not fall for men or sleep with them but he almost always
wore pant suits. The Lalola in Argentina was good but the character
got too caught into the transformation and eventually acted like he
was always a woman.|
From: guest (Scipio)
, 126 months, post #24 |
My apologies for denigrating IDENTITY THEFT. True, I haven't seen
the movie for myself. I wasn't really reviewing it, I was speaking
in hyperbole, keying off an unfriendly review that I read
somewhere. The reviewer didn't want to spoil things, and so didn't
say what was wrong with the ending. What he didn't like, someone
else, even me, might like.
But Lalola is my topic again. It's such a rich topic for a fan who
has been starved for so long. I was reading another tg website
message board and I read a fan's notice that he'd come upon a place
where the Ukrainian Lalola (Margosha) can be streamed and viewed.
(Imagine that!) I checked the link out and was very impressed. If I
am sizing things up right, this is the place to go to get the best
Lolala bang for the buck. And from all appearances, it looks very
handsomely done and is well performed. It's found at a place called
Click http://www.memocast.com/media.aspx?id=904758 (This is not a
link to a copyrighted work; it is a link to a merchant dealing in
the distribution of the work).
Memocast is foreign, but it uses English language. It plainly wants
to attract the English speaking world. (Hey, guys, then put out the
series in dubbed DVD;s) The rest of what's written is in what I
assume is Ukrainian (maybe it's Russian, but I think its Ukrainian,
a much nicer country). What the site seems to be is an internet
distribution system for streaming video featuring East European
movies and television, whether it is private or state-owned. They
have lots of stuff, but, get this, they also have 60 EPISODES OF
MARGOSHA to view!
I don't know if Margosha ended at 60 episodes, or if it is still
going on. We certainly hope it will run as long as the Argentenian
show. There is a click-choice to make from a listing of all 60
shows. Then it plays as a stream in their view-window. It plays for
5 minutes and then a nag window comes up, stopping the show and
asking for a membership. I won't give the amount exactly (because
that may sound like spamming. But, hey, I'm just a fan who's found
a place to get good stuff and I'd like to share it.) If you can
afford to buy a used trade paperback such as kids use in a college
class, there is no obstacle to getting a "unlimited" use
membership. Its hard to believe that the Lalola that formerly
seemed one of the most far away and unattainable is actually one of
the most accessible.
NOTE: There is a translation button and there is ALSO a DOWNLOAD
button. It really looks like they invite members to take a copy to
save to on their own hard-drives, and they supply the software
process to do it! They don't have a HELP button to explain how to
use the site in detail, but everything I did was simple. So far
this seems like an easy site to love. (No sign that they have any
other of the Lalola series, tho).
I got 5 minutes of Margosha #1 by streaming video. Then I saw the
drop-down list that offers DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. I hit the
translation button and played Margosha #2 for five minutes. Well,
alas, they still spoke foreign, and there was not even a subtitle
that appeared. Maybe not all the video material on the site has
dubs or titles. Maybe it was just that the language feature is not
allowed to work except for members. Or maybe "Margosha" is a
product that just wasn't provided with English voices or titles. I
can't say. But if they do so much to welcome English-speakers, why
didn't they give us a translation of this major product? If anyone
finds out that they do, post the good news here.
But even if it turns out that Margosha has no English, it only puts
her on par with all the other Lolas. I hope this chance lasts long
enough for everyone who'd like to see Margosha to take advantage of
it. I've tried to find other viewing links for the other shows, but
failed so far. Better still, every episode I checked out seem to
have a plot summary. It's in Slavic, but it is translatable. I use
the Bing translation link in my cheapie computer. If there really
is no subtitles or dubbing, these notes will be helpful.
The heroine seems to be called Margot (Margose?). Wow! If you only
get to see one Lola, this is a good one. The look of the Spanish
Lalola was a disappointment, but this Ukrainian actress is a man's
man's dream. She's brunnette and dark complexioned; she wouldn't be
out of place cast as a sultry Russian spy gal, and a formidable one
at that. I've seen later clips of her, when she gets strongly
heterosexual and displays a passionate temperament. When the lovely
Carla Peterson gets physical, she's huggably soft and as sweet as
candy. But Margot comes off as being Slavic passion incarnate.
She's not candy, that girl, but the main course.
I have seen the first couple episodes of 3 Latin Lalolas, and the
action is very much alike, obviously shot from the same script that
is supplied by the franchiser granter. But as each series goes on,
the details, and later ever the adventures, become more and more
distinctive, so I don't think repetitiveness is a big problem in
the long run. I watched the last episodes of the Argentinean,
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BTW, the Spanish show started strong in the ratings, but ended
weak. The network actually did not broadcast the last 28 shows, but
did a new edit to end it in just 6, bringing it to 138 shows. But I
read somewhere that the shows were actually in the can, and the
network showed them later on. Maybe they put them on in non-prime
time or something. It's sad, but the series was never as popular in
Spain as elsewhere (50% of prime audience vs 33% at tops). And they
didn't help themselves by not choosing at the outset one of the
more beautiful Spanish actresses that they must have had at their
disposal. I think that hurt the fantasy that was a driving force
behind the success of some of the other series.
NOTE: I address this item to "Guest, Day 1." Thanks for the
additional info on the Chilean Lola. Were you in a place where it
was broadcast, or is there a good place to find out more about her?
One doesn't need all these series to be exactly alike, but I regret
that this Lola is so out of step with the Lolas I know of. I
actually would like to see a Lola fight her fate for about half the
series, but if we really like her, we want her to chill out and see
the good things in her situation. Otherwise she can't be happy. By
the end of the series, I like to see a Lola open to new
possibilities and enjoying life. The unhappy Lola you describe
doesn't not seem to be a romantic comedy character. The whole tone
is different, and the series must be more seriously dramatic. In
that context, the ending she seems to have is almost inevitable.
(That's what happens when writers restrict their options
needlessly.) Again, I'll say no more that will spoil things for
I did a search to find out the song writer/singer of the English
language song in LALOLA: The Story. It is Brandi Carlile and the
song is called "The Story." Does anyone know for sure if it was
written for the Lalola Argentina series, or was it a song that was
adapted, like "Both Sides Now" was adapted by Blake Edwards for
"Switch." (Lalola is pretty much a serialization of Switch, but
they do it soooo much better.)
Edwards seemed to think that to let Amanda behave as the Lolas
usually behave would get him lynched. Anyway, it appears clear that
the Lola idea puts off the Anglo Saxon on some strange
temperamental grounds. (Though American, my own bloodline comes
from two countries where Lola is a big success. : ) Anything goes
in Canada, but will they give us an English series? Oh, no they
won't. I can just hear them say, "Oh, (blush), oh, golly. We can't
put something so, so offensive, as that on the air." Maybe they're
right. If Eve Adams ever got put on, odds are, the couch potato
audience would kill it in 6 episodes.
I have a question. I went to what seems to be the official (Dutch
Lola) "Louislouise," and the translated blurp there says that the
end of the series is coming and Louise becomes a man again --
maybe. Does another know how that turned out yet (maybe the series
finale is still upcoming)? Changing back at the end just too
American sit-comish. It's a deal breaker. By the success of the
other Lolas and now they left the air with the audiences cheering,
they ought to know better. It might make a difference in my
willingness to buy the Dutch DVD in preference to so many other
countries. The endings of the 3 most accessible Lolas are more my
cup of tea.
By the way, I read that Lalola is being rerun in Argentina, either
now or soon. Can anyone find if they download it on the net while
it is running, like FANCAST downloads many shows currently on that
I like, such as SMALLVILLE?
To sign off, I'd like to hear back if anyone finds himself or
herself as impressed with Margot of "Margosha" as I was.
From: guest (Scipio)
, 126 months, post #25 |
I must have written a very tedious letter if everyone has abandoned
this thread. I've gone over to annoy the people at the "Lalola: How
many are there?" discussion threads. But if any Lalola fans still
drop in here, please check out my letter on the other discussion
group. I've found what looks like the offical Russian television
network page and their Marosha (Russian Lola) page. It's chocked
full of plot synapses and what seem to be full episode downloads.
But without knowinig Russian, it will take some work to understand
how to get at the downloads. The URL is given at the other place.|
I sent the site a fan letter. I used my computer to translate my
simple English message into Russian. I said that Margosha and the
Lola series has many fans over here, but no one is showing them. If
Russia would send DVD's our way, they could get a good business
from us. Other fans could also tell the Russian television network
that they have a market they are overlooking in the U.S.
From: guest (Heather)
, 126 months, post #26 |
I'm a real "Margosha" fan. And as I live in Eastern Europe and
understand Russian very well, I can assure you that that this TV
serial is gripping the Russian-speaking-nations. I'm even sorry
that you guys can't understand this language because I have no
doubt that the Russian (yes, Russian, not Ukrainian) version is the
best there is so far.|
Latin Americans always make their series too pathetic and trivial.
There is too much "sugar" and soppy sentences in the love scenes,
too much yelling, slapping and stereotypical manners in other
scenes. They normally nave a pair of supergood, saintlike
characters, a pair of pure evil ones, and others just make the
background. I can't wach that kind of stuff. But "Margosha" is
excellent. OK, lets start from the very beginng.
The story takes place in Moscow, Russia. Just like other
methamorphose serials, "Margosha" starts with Igor (a typical
Russian name for man) climbing out of woman's bed after a
one-night-stand (at least in his opinion). He ignores her calls
during the following day, and when he finally answers he lies and
loughs about her, and that woman (Karina) gets really mad and wants
a real revenge. She goes to an old Gypsy woman and pays her to get
Gosha (the same Igor, Russians have special and common "pet names"
for each official name) turned into a woman, so he could experience
all the problems and feelings women have to cope with from day to
day. So, Gosha wakes up the next morning as Margosha (full name is
Margarita, "pet names" - Margosha, Margo) and scares his best
friend Anja ("pet name" for Anna) who will be extremely helpful and
suportive in his further - woman's - life. He has to go to work
(men's journal, of course) as Margosha now and somehow explain
where did Igor go. Of course, further plot includes wanting and
trying to get his body back, being terryfied by slowly falling in
love with colleague Andrey (nick name Kaluga), coping with common
female everyday life and problems, trying to get the authority in
the journal etc. But what makes this serial shine far above others,
is the fantastic sense of humour most of the heroes (and Margosha
at first place) possess, the realistic characters (no Latin
American kind of overdoing, somehow the characters seem very
realistic and I can understand every single one of them) and the
soundtrack. I must admit Margo definately has a strong personality.
She is a femme fatale. Turning into a woman hasn't made her a
sweetheart at once, personality of Igor Rebrov softens a little bit
by the time, as well as his speech, but he never loses the
witticism, firmness of his principles, acuteness and honour. Yes,
she gains some new qualities and abilities as a woman, the most
important of all is ability to love sincerely because previously
Igor just jumped from one bed to another with not even the
slightest sense of guilt. This metamorphose was really a blessing
for him as a personality.
Anyway I strongly recommend everyone to watch "Margosha" instead of
Lalola versions. There are 138 series so far (2 seasons for sure),
and I haave watched 51 by now. But I have no idea if there are any
dubbed or subtitled in English. So, start learning Russian! ;)
P.S. Here, have fun listening to some of "Margosha" songs.
From: guest (Scipio)
, 126 months, post #27 |
Thank you Heather for all the information about Margosha. I somehow
got the impression, even watching the performances in Russian (one
fan in aother place insisted it was Ukraininan, but I found out at
the Memocast site that it was Russian for sure), that the teh story
seemed more realistic, more thoughtful, than the other Lolas. This
could be the very best Lalola series of all. What a shame if
Russian television doesn't make an effort to get it to the English
speaking world. It could fill in for the Lalola that will never be
done in English. I don't know the reason, but the Anglo-Saxon
tradition is made very uneasy by this sort of thing, even when it
is only a harmless and very upbeat fantasy. There never was any
plan to make a many-episode serial out of the Fox version, just a
weekly show at best. And our comedies here are always so bad
(coarse, dim-witted) that I dread what they would do to the
refined, witty concepts that were developed so well in the
You say that there is no word that any English version exists. But
does that site offer the net downloads that I last cited to Britain
and Ireland? I had hoped they would at least have subtitled
versions at least for those customers. The market of Russian
language shows to non-Russians must be limited. Argentina did
dubbed versions for selling abroad to foreign TV. I saw a clip from
an Indonesian one. The networks here would never touch a Lalola
product, that's not the Anglo big business way, but some cable
stations, like the Comedy Channel maybe, might.
This morning I am putting another post at the other Lalola
discussion thread, with some very important information about
Margosha. I don't want to be seen repeating myself all over the
message board, so I'll just put it in the one place. HINT: I'm
learned that there is another Margosha site that fans of it and the
other Lalola characters should check out. It is free and very easy
to use. It looks like it has all of season 1 already.
I have explored the Margosha stuff at YouTube. The music videos are
From: guest (Rober911)
, 126 months, post #28 |
All this interesting talk about Lolala has made me interested, and
so I've been frequently on YouTube. But I also found an old Spanish
language entertainment-world report that had a good sized article
on the Argentinean show. The translation said that at first (in the
romance between Facundo and Lola) the conflict was inside of Lola.
That's understandable. But it said that later the greater conflict
was inside Facundo, because he found out Lola and Lalo were the
same person. Up to now I didn't think that he ever found out. In
what show did it happen, or if no one can name a program, about
what part of the sereies did it happen. Does anyone know the
circumstances that led him to discover Lola's secret? Really, I'm
very curious, because this adds an element to the plot I didn't
suspect existed. And it suggests an even better plot than I
From: guest (BobW)
, 125 months, post #29 |
I was trading emails about the different Lolas with a net pal and
he liked a him a theory that I told him. It wasn't wholly mine, but
I'd worked out things I'd heard int order. It has to do with why
every great nation in the world, except China and Japan (I
believe), seems open to the idea of broadcasting a show like
Lalola, but all the English speakers, even Ireland, refuse to. The
idea is that those cultures that are rather macho, such as Spain,
like it, because it allows struggling women to see a man enduring,
in life and work, the difficulties that they endure. And macho men
aren't threatened by it; they may actually be amused by
speculatinging how their life would change if they were women. This
comes from haveing a sexually confident attitude. But very
effeminate nations and fanatically macho nations, don't accept
Lalola. The Arab world is an example of the latter. The men reject
all that is feminine, and the women are too beaten down even to
have a fantasy life. The best example of the effeminate culture is,
alas, the English world. They worked so hard and for so long on to
make the sexes not only equal, but the same. Their sexual
identities have been reduced to a shambles. The women don't feel
oppressed, so they don't care about Lola's struggle to be accepted.
The men are afraid, afraid that they are just women with a
differenty body shape, and so a show about a man going all the way
into femininity gives them deep anxiety. If the gossip is true, Fox
couldn't write a tg story in the serious, sympathic way that most
nations do. Its writers had to protect themselves by reducing what
is a story of love and character-regeneration to a safe (and
tasteless) joke. The sponsors, sad types held prisoner by their own
anxieties, couldn't even face the fantasy even in so diluted a
form, so headed for the hills. Well, I hope this Psych 101 talk
doesn't sound too ridiculous.|
From: guest (TheSaint)
, 125 months, post #30 |
I think you're on to something, Bob.|
By the way, Kevin Falls, creator of Journeyman, who wrote the U.S.
script for Eva Adams has apparently moved on. Recent reports show
he's adapting the popular comic Powers. In a world where Super
heros are common, Powers follows two homicide detectives as they
try to solve murders the old fashion way. The first arch involved
the murder of a super hero who is indestructible.
I guess we can official close the book on Eva Adams.
From: guest (Captain Gallant)
, 125 months, post #31 |
Kevin Falls gone? Good riddence. It would have broken my heart if
he'd kept his ham hands on the project. If there is any genre he's
actually good at writing, let him write it, elsewhere. If he'd been
smart, he have just put a light polish on the Carla Peterson script
and let it sell, like it has sold easily all over the world. It
isn't a writer of a bad script that is essential to the survival of
Lalola in America, it's Sony. Sony has a good record in promoting
Lalola abroad. Lalola is international, and so are the heads of
I see we have three hopes for Lalola (in an understandable form.)
For all we know, Fox's option is dead. Should we miss it? Sony may
takes the rights to somebody more intelligent (preferably a cable
network; the people BobW talks about seem especially thick in major
network TV). Secondly, we pray at least one network abroad puts out
their Lola in dubbed DVD. I love so many of the Lolas, but I'd be
estatic if we got the chance to buy the Argentinian, the Greek, or
the Russian. I would have loved the Spaniard, too, except I didn't
care for her looks. Third, some US cable channel could syndicate a
foreign dubbed series, like most nations got their shows (all or
mostly the Argentinean, I bet). Of the channels I know of, the
better bets are Lifetime, WE TV, SoapNet, or the gay channel Logos.
If Logos were smart, it would leap at the chance to get a crossover
audience among middle class women. Then there are the American
hispanic stations. I wrote to Univision (which shows in my area)
asking them to send a subtitled version to the outlet in my state.
Yet, I'll believe in good news when I see it. This process of
getting a super-successful TV show into the US never should have
been this hard and this slow.
From: guest (Robert911)
, 125 months, post #32 |
A couple weeks ago, I searched for something like "Lalola episode
summaries" and found a terse one in Spanish. I did an on-screen
translation, then screen- captured shots so I could put it through
Textbridge to turn it into text. It is for the Spanish Lalola
series (the length, the names). There are 138 entries, so it iwould
be rude to post it all here (I'd need permission of the webmaster
to do so). Unfortunately, I must have forgotten to bookmark it so I
don't know where I found it. I am pasting the first 20 (of 138)
titltes/plot summaries below. If there is really much interest in
this list, say so and I can post again with an email address. I
don't know much Spanish, but I tried to make some sense of the odd
translated lines, with the aid of a dictionary. Suggested meanings
are in brackets. Some are quite beyond my understanding.|
Some old business. I've done some searching and it seems that all
or most of the shows have Lola's love interest finding out about
her past identity. It's a stunner for them, but they think things
out and are able to cope. So, the Lolas make a positive choice to
be women and wives, instead of going back to their old lives, and
their suitors realize that this miracle doesn't change the way they
feel. The marriages are put on a foundation of acceptance and
The summary Spanish Lola, 1-20
1 Lalo introduced
2 Director general
3 Lola suffers the harassment by the men by the Agency
4 Lola and Paula are still trying to find Romina
5 Lola and Paula find the witch that cast the spell
6 Gustavo Sergio and face [Gustavo and Sergio face off?
7 The success of the spot. Lola returns to the Agency
8 Gustavo begins to suspect Lola
9 Lola is dressed as Lalo
10 Natalia believes that Elisa is the girlfriend of Sergio
11 Lola and Sergio are about to kiss
12 Lola, every day, gets closer to Sergio
13 Sergio is determined to declare to Lola
14 Natalia continues with her plan for revenge
15 Paula Martin forces [Lola? to organize a dinner
16 Gustavo [is sent to trace the call [to Lola
17 Sam and Lola are going to dinner
18 Natalia confronts Lola
19 Paula Gustavo [is discovered trying to enter [her home
20 Martin asks Paul to marry him
From: guest (ItSucks2Kw)
, 117 months, post #33 |
I've read some rumors about the show and i want know if lola
mail me cz i might not remmber the check that post again anyone plz
and if u know any details send me the plot of the last episode.
From: guest (lola)
, 117 months, post #34 |
hi ^^ evry one|
am lola from u.s.a and
i need a Translation of series LaLola
Argentina in English Language please if any one can help me
just send a Message
With a link of translation
From: guest (Robert911)
, 117 months, post #35 |
There is an amateur site that has about 20 of the first LALOLA
(Arg) episodes with English subtitles (they are the kind that can
only be read in streaming download). This is a great thing, though
when people have to work without pay, these projects are never
carried out to completion, especially considering that there are
148 shows in the LALOLA series. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that
we'll get more.
But we should be grateful for what some good people have seen fit
to give us. The address is
It is one of the wonders of the century that not only has LALOLA of
Argentina not provided professional DVDs with English for the fans,
but not one other of the countries have so far produced any for
their shows. Yet the Dori Media news says that they did a set of
English dubbed LALOLA shows for the English market back in 2008.
Apparently though, they were looking at getting a broadcast in
England, not at revving up for DVD sales. Alas, England thinks that
6 episode of anything is a television season, so trying to sell
them 148 shows is like trying to fix a watch wearing boxing gloves.
By the way, Azteca TV (Mexico) did an abridged telecast of LALOLA
once upon a time. I've found no way to stream or download things
from Azteca, but they do have plot summaries for the 90 abridged
Lalola shows that they aired before. They are in Spanish, but are
translateable at net translation sites. The address is:
Even iF you can't understand Spanish, these summaries will help a
lot understanding what is going on.
From: guest (Avido737)
, 117 months, post #36 |
Thanks for the tips, Robert. This is great stuff!|
What I wanted to say was I was looking at the Vikii Gender Bender
Fun page, checking out what you said, and I saw a link to an Asian
show called RUK TAE KAE DAI. It looked good, an Asian tg story with
grownups, not that silly Japanese high school kid stuff. I saw that
YouTube has many more episodes (more than one poster; one posting
is called Ruk Tae Gae Dai; between the two, they make up for bad or
missing chapters). The show reminds me of the Philippine version of
Lalola. This _has_ to be the Malaysian version of LALOLA. Anyone
know for sure? How long did the series run?
From: guest (marc202)
, 117 months, post #37 |
hi watched this show great get the jist of it reminds me of a
japanese show acouple of years ago where a boy cheating on his
girlfreind gets changed inyo a stunning girl and has to deal with
bras boobs and boys in the end he gest stuck and stays at the girls
school falling in love with an older boy|
, 117 months, post #38 |
What Japanese show marc202? Link?|
From: guest (lola)
, 117 months, post #39 |
thank you for u'r generosity
Really, unfortunately, that there is no copy of the serial LaLola
translated to English
^^ but okay a'm happy
becaose " that there are good people like you"
This is nice of you
and ^^ have a good day " lola "
, 116 months, post #40 |
This is probably a trivial question but why did Lalo adapt so
quickly to his female body in the Argentinian version? He rarely
wore pants and was usually in skirts, dress shirts, and heels. I
know that he hardly ever crossed his legs like a lady but he
adjusted quickly to the body. Seriously, how many guys would adjust
that quickly to the body and clothes? I would think that most guys
would be scared and/or embarassed to wear skirts and dresses even
if they were in a female body and heels too. And why did he try to
cover his crotch when he sat down in a skirt or dress, that body
wasn't his so why should he care?|
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