Chuck Vincent low budget film of reincarnation. Plot is much like that of Switch.
, 599 months, post #1 |
I agree with above reviewer that when the female side of the main
charcter takes over is very well handled. I thought the acting was
well done - especially by Jane Hamilton in the title row = she does
a very good job changing from a jerk to a intellegent, caring
There's on hilarious scene where she is hit upon by sone jerks &
she turns the tables on them very well.
, 599 months, post #2 |
For being a low-budge, low production value flick, it's not, well,
as a TG film it's not ALL that bad. The plot is indeed close to
Switch, which came later. Sexist asshole is shot by a feminist and
pops right back as a woman in the same clothes. Includes most of
the usual moral lessons about how women are mistreated by men,
although more for purposes of comic filler, I think. It's a cheapie
and ridiculous most of the time, but on the plus side, it does go
way farther with the character's sexual (orientation) change than
Switch does. Plus, there's sex! It's no work of art, but for TG
purposes, it does the job.|
My two biggest problems with Cleo/Leo are: One; it takes the
already far-fetched device of reincarnation, and stretches it to
the point of making it even more unbelievable. The character goes
through more than one "reincarnation" transformation, and each time
it gets sillier. Okay, it's fiction, but I think they over did it
with the reincarnations. Example; we're supposed to believe that
the (first time) reincarnated, suddenly female main character walks
off a pier, gets in a car, makes a phone call, drives to a buddy's
place, strips nude, and all this time isn't freaked by his/her new
voice, or hasn't noticed he's now sporting substantial breasts
until he/she finally looks in a mirror. It was done for comic
effect, but again, stretched too far. Two, and this really ticks me
off; no lesbian scene! They really tease you with it, but it
doesn't happen... What were they thinking? Damn!
On the plus side, the film carries the sex change to the point of
the main character finally losing control to his/her new female
urges. The lead up to this is flawed in a lot of ways, but you have
to give it credit for going all the way, something Switch copped
out on, IMHO. As much as it could have improved, the scene where
"he" gives up and "she" takes over does it for me every time.
, 230 months, post #3 |
All things considered, it's really a pity this movie is so
extremely awful, and it has nothing to do with budget or production
values. From the start, "Leo The Male Chauvinist" is a ridiculous
cigar chomping caricature, a cartoon from the depths of central
casting, never remotely believable. And there isn't even a vague
attempt to explain his transformation... or how someone who's been
turned from a big fat man into a petite curvy woman, could crawl
out the river, plastered with wet clothes, drive a car, then talk
to and undress in front of a bunch of guys WITHOUT NOTICING
anything was amiss! Apparently that dunk in the drink messed up
Leo's sense of touch, hearing, and peripheral vision too!|
The actual story, as "Cleo" adjusts and tries to regain control of
the family busines, proceeds passably. But why, then, does another
trip into the river result in a transformation back into a man, and
then why does getting shot, nowhere near the river bring ANOTHER
change back into a woman? Somewhere it makes sense for there to be
some explanation for all this: God? Magic? Karma? The universe?
With appropriately low expectations, however, the flick can still
be fun, especially as the transformed Leo, in a dressing room,
laments being "a cat in a canary cage," and later, counts a million
sheep while trying to avoid getting turned on by a sexy roommate.
Too bad this one wasn't a lot better. Wouldn't have taken much.
, 212 months, post #4 |
I can see that there is a lot of different opinion about this
movie. It makes no sense to pick on Cleo/Leo for its plot devices,
which are pretty much borrowed whole from "Goodbye Charlie" (okay,
so a lot of people don't like GC either).|
The cited plot oddities are real and I don't claim to understand
them either. But I don't sweat over them. I assume some sort of
reality change has occured by God-intervention (ala Switch) and the
reality which we see on the "Cosmic Plane" only slowly registers
with people on the "Material Plain." Or maybe not. Who cares.
When we get right down to it, I rate Cleo/Leo a better watch for a
TG fan than any of the existing movies I know of, including the
wretched "Sexual Chemistry" and dismally disappointing "Dr. Jeckyll
and Ms Hyde" (the Sean Young version; the plot of the porno movie
by that name was better done).
What's interesting is the hero's effort to creat a new life
starting from scratch, her character-regeneration by enteracing
with old acquaintences in a new way, and an ending which accepts
womanhood and love, unlike most movies which cop out with death,
change-back, or lesbianism.
I don't think there is a movie with a TG them that has been done
really well, but for my money Cleo/Leo scores on more points than
any other video currently available.
From: guest (kud)
, 1 months, post #5 |
This year is the 30th anniversary of the premiere of this movie.
The first ever movie or show where the male turned female character
ended up with a guy.|
From: guest (Gbcstti)
, 1 months, post #6 |
What about ‘Sam’ last year?|
From: guest (Gbcstti)
, 1 months, post #7 |
Sorry, it was in 2016...|
From: guest (para)
, 1 months, post #8 |
he didn't say "only" movie, obviously, there are tons of other
examples, just the 'first.' And even that is debatable as plenty of
porn flicks came along first. And this wasn't a major mainstream
From: guest (Gbcsttu)
, 1 months, post #9 |
Good point, my bad...|
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