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In this provocative teen comedy, Luke, a young man insecure about his masculinity discovers he's a Zerophiliac, with the ability to change sex at will. Join Luke as he journeys into the extraordinary world of Zerophilia where so many crazy questions arise, only one question matters: "Whom do you lo ...more |
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From: guest
, 224 months, post #1 |
Review - Zerophilia November 11, 2005
By: Raven
I just returned from the screening at the Fort Lauderdale Film
Festival. I can encapsulate my review in one sentence. Best TG
movie . . . ever! It is screening again 3:30 p.m. on Sunday. If you
are anywhere close, you have to get here to see it.. I wil answer
Mako's question first. It is not slated for general release.
However that question was asked of the director after the movie.
They are having a meeting (and screening) with a major distributor
next week. Keep you fingers crossed. Ft. Laude was only the 4th
place it screened. The others were Toronto, Breckenridge, and Sao
Paulo, Brazil. They've gotten a good response from college aged
kids.
Onto the plot. SPOILERS AHEAD
Click to show spoiler
Mrebcuvyn ersref gb n pbaqvgvba jurer lbh unir na rkgen puebzbfbzr.
Gur "M" puebzbfbzr. Gurer ner 100 gb 1000 mrebcuvyvnpf va gur
jbeyq, ohg abobql xabjf, orpnhfr vg tbrf haercbegrq. Gur "M"
puebzbfbzr vf yngrag hagvy lbh unir frk (pyvznk/betnfz) sbe gur
svefg gvzr. Gur lbh orpbzr n fcbagnarbhf mrebcuvyvnp. Gung zrnaf
rirel gvzr lbh trg ghearq ba lbh fgneg gb punatr vagb gur bccbfvgr
traqre. Lbh erireg ol erzbivat gur fbhepr bs orvat ghearq ba (be n
genadhvyvmre). Vg jnf pyrire, gur pnyyrq vg n abpgheany erzvffvba.Gur zbivr fgnegf bhg jvgu Yhxr ba n pnzcvat gevc va gur zvqqyr bs
gur jbbqf. (Vg jnf svyzrq va naq nebhaq Rhtrar, Bertba). Uvf grag
vf eha bire ol n cvpx hc gehpx gung vf qenttvat n genvyre. Gur cvpx
hc gehpx vf qevira ol Xryyl Yr Oebpx. Bar guvat yrnqf gb nabgure,
naq Yhxr unf frk jvgu guvf fgenatre.Jr arkg zrrg Yhxr�f ebbzzngr Xrrana. Gur xvaq bs orfg sevraq
rirelobql jvfurf gurl unq. Xrrana�f tveysevraq vf Wnavar. Yhxr tbrf
gb ohl n cvpx-hc gehpx, naq raq hc ohlvat guvf ovt qvrfry gehpx
gung vf frra ba gur zbivr sylre. Uvf rkcynangvba vf uvf sngure
(qrprnfrq) unq bar whfg yvxr vg. Va fubeg beqre, gur gehpx qrirybcf
zrpunavpny ceboyrzf. Yhxr gryyf Xrrana nobhg guvf qernz gung ur�f
orra univat yngryl. Uvf cravf vf trggvat fznyyre. Ur gryyf Xrrana
gung gur guvat vf, vg vfa�g n qernz. Xrrana qbrfa�g oryvrir uvz. Ur
guvaxf gung Yhxr whfg unf fbpvny nakvrgl nebhaq jbzra. Ur ercrngf
Yhxr�f flzcgbzf jura ur vf nebhaq jbzra ur vf nggenpgrq gb. Ur
fjrngf, srryf hapbzsbegnoyr, svaqf vg uneq gb oerngu, rgp.Yhxr gnxrf uvf gehpx gb nabgure sevraq, Znk, jub ehaf n tnentr. Znk
gevrf gb purng uvz. Ur gryyf uvz gur wbo vf tbvat gb pbfg uvz
$200-$300, juvpu ur qbrfa�g unir. Ohg ur fnlf ur�yy tb naq purpx vs
ur unf fbzr hfrq cnegf. Znk tbrf vagb gur onpx, naq uvf fvfgre,
Zvpuryyr pbzr vagb gur ragenapr gb gur tnentr. Yhxr xabjf bs
Zvpuryyr, ohg fur jnf va Arj Lbex. Nccneragyl fur�f pbzr onpx sbe
njuvyr. Gurer vf na vafgnag nggenpgvba. Yhxr ohzoyrf naq fghzoyrf
uvf jnl vagb nfxvat ure bhg.N srj qnlf yngre gurl tb bhg. Gurl ner trggvat nybat yvxr tnat
ohfgref. Nyy bs n fhqqra, Yhxr ernyyl fgnegf srryvat hapbzsbegnoyr
naq pna�g oerngur. Ur rkphfrf uvzfrys gb gur onguebbz. Ubjrire, ur
tbrf bhg gur onpx ragenapr gb gur erfgnhenag. Ur bcraf uvf fuveg,
naq vf abj fcbegvat n avpr cnve bs oernfgf. Yhxr cnffrf bhg. Ur n
jnxrf hc ubhef yngre, naq rirelobql unf yrsg, naq gur erfgnhenag vf
pybfrq.Yhxr gryyf Xraana jung unccrarq, yrnivat bhg gur cnegf nobhg gur
oernfgf. Yhxr gevrf gb punyx vg hc gb n sbbq nyyretl (zhfuebbzf).
Xraana, haorxabjafg gb Yhxr pbzzhavpngrf guebhtu gur vagrearg gb n
qbpgbe nobhg Yhxr flzcgbzf (nf sne nf ur xabjf). Zrnajuvyr, Yhxr
frrf Znk, naq jnagf uvz gb gryy uvf fvfgre ur�f fbeel. Znk gryyf
Yhxr gb fgnl njnl sebz uvf fvfgre. Gurl nyzbfg trg vagb n svtug.
Svanyyl Znk eryragf, naq gryyf Yhxr ur�yy gryy Zvpuryyr nobhg gur
sbbq nyyretl. Xraana gryyf Yhxr gung gur qbpgbe sebz gur rnfg pbfg
vf tbvat gb fraq uvz fbzr zngrevnyf nobhg uvf pbaqvgvba.Va gur arkg frra Yhxr vf jbexvat uvf wbo nf n pyrex va n eheny 7-11
glcr bs fgber. Na byqre puvpx pbzrf va, naq gevrf gb frqhpr Yhxr.
Npghnyyl cebcbfvgvbaf uvz. Ur gheaf ure qbja. Npghnyyl, ur guvaxf
fur vf n cflpub. Yhxr gryyf Xrrana guvf gur arkg qnl, naq gurl trg
n ynhtu nobhg vg.Xrrana, Yhxr, Wnavar, naq Zvpuryyr ner bhg ng n one ba n qbhoyr
qngr. Gur jbzna jub gevrq gb frqhpr Yhxr vf gurer. Gurer vf n irel
shaal fprar jurer gur sbhe ner cynlvat cbby, naq gur phr onyy whzcf
bss gur gnoyr naq fgevxrf Yhxr va gur onyyf. Ur srryf ab cnva. Gurl
nyy ybbx ng uvz fgenatryl. Yhxr srryf qbja gurer, naq gura ntnva
rkphfrf uvzfrys. Ur tbrf vagb gur onguebbz, naq chyyf qbja uvf
cnagf gb svaq ur abj unf n intvan. Xrrana sbyybjf, naq ur raqf hc
fubjvat Xrrana. Gur fgenatr jbzna svaqf gurz. Fur gryyf gurz ure
anzr vf Qe. Flqarl {jungrire}, naq fur pnzr va erfcbafr gb Xrranaf
r-znvy. Fur fnlf fur pna uryc Yhxr, naq tvirf uvz n frqngvir gb
qevax. Fur neenatrf gb zrrg gurz gbzbeebj gb rkcynva jung vf tbvat
ba jvgu YhxrGurl vaqrrq zrrg gur arkg qnl, naq Flqarl gryyf Xrrana naq Yhxr gur
zrqvpny rkcynangvba V tnir ng gur ortvaavat. Fur gryyf Yhxr gung
gur bayl jnl gb fgnovyvmr uvf pbaqvgvba vf gb pbzcyrgryl fjvgpu
bire. Gur tbny vf gb svther bhg jung ur ernyyl jnagf gb or, n tvey
be n obl. Fur gryyf uvz gung ur pna pbzcyrgryl fjvgpu ol univat na
betnfz/pyvznk. Ur pna qb gung ol znfgheongvat.Xrrana raqf hc gryyvat Wnavar. Fb abj guerr bs gurz xabj jung vf
tbvat ba. Yhxr�f nggenpgvba gb Zvpuryyr vf gevttrevat guvf, naq
hayrff ur pna pbageby vg, fbzrguvat onq jvyy unccra. Yhxr qrpvqrf
gb haqretb gur genafsbezngvba. Ur qbrf, naq ur vf abj n irel phgr
tvey. Ur gevrf gb fjvgpu onpx ol erirefvat gur cebprff (guebhtu
srznyr znfgheongvba), rkprcg fur pna�g. Fur pna�g trg urefrys bss.
Wnavar erznexf, �Jrypbzr gb ZL jbeyq.� Fur gevrf gb uryc Yhxr ol
trggvat n ivoengbe. Fgvyy qbrfa�g jbex. (*Abgr: shaal fprarf urer).Znk pbzrf bire gb Yhxr naq Xrrana�f cynpr va gur zvqqyr bs nyy bs
guvf. Ur vf frrxvat Yhxr�f uryc va qrirybcvat uvf ubpxrl fxvyyf.
(Yhxr vf n tbbq ubpxrl cynlre.) Yhxr pbzrf gb gur qbbe (jenccrq va
n furrg). Gurer vf vafgnag nggenpgvba ol Znk jvgu Yhxr. Wnavar
rkcynvaf fur vf Yhxr pbhfva����.Yhpn. (tbbq bar). Znk yrnirf n
zrffntr sbe Yhxr.Yhxr ehaf onpx hcfgnvef gb uvf ebbz. Ur ybbxf bhg gur jvaqbj ng Znk
(jub abj unf uvf fuveg bss). Lbh thrffrq vg. Yhpn vf culfvpnyyl
nggenpgrq gb Znk. (Bu zl TBQ. Pna guvf trg nalzber pbashfvat?? Whfg
jnvg). Wnavar pngpurf Yhpn tnmvat ybatvatyl ng Znk. Yhpn pybfrf gur
qbbe. Wnavar gevrf gb uryc Yhpn ol qrfpevovat jung vg srryf yvxr gb
unir n zna znxr ybir gb lbh. Yhpn vzntvarf vg vf Znk, naq
znfgheongrf. Yhpn eriregf vagb Yhxr ntnva.Gur zbivr qrirybcf n yvggyr snegure. Obggbz yvar, Yhxr vf va ybir
jvgu Zvpuryyr, ohg unf gur culfvpny ubgf sbe Znk. Gbhtu fvghngvba
gurer. Yhxr tbrf gb frr Qe. Flqarl. Qe. Flqarl rkcynvaf gb Yhxr
gurer vf n jnl gb svk uvz. Ur unf gb unir frk jvgu nabgure
Mrebcuvyvnp, naq ng gung cbvag ur vf nzabzbeucvp. Va bgure jbeqf,
ur�yy or ybpxrq vagb bar traqre, naq pna bayl punatr vs ur nf frk
jvgu nabgure mrebcuvyvnp. Yhxr zhfrf �jurer qb V svaq nabgure
mrebcuvyvnp?� Qe. Flqarl rkcynvaf gung fur vf n �m�� urefrys, naq
gung vf jul fur pnzr fb dhvpxyl, fb fur pbhyq uryc uvz serrmr uvf
traqre. Gurer vf bayl bar jnl vg jbexf gubhtu. Gurl obgu unir gb or
nggenpgrq gb rnpu bgure. Yhxr fnlf gung jba�g or ceboyrz. Gurl
nyzbfg qb vg, ohg Yhxr onpxf bhg. Gurl znxr na nccbvagzrag gb qb vg
gbzbeebj.Gur arkg qnl, Yhxr eriregf gb Yhpn. Fur zrrgf hc jvgu Znk, naq gurl
cynl n yvggyr ubpxrl. Gurl fgneg gb znxr bhg, cnffvbangryl.
Ubjrire, fur chyyf njnl. Fur gryyf Znk vg pna�g jbex. Fur vf
yrnivat gb tb onpx ubzr. Znk yrnirf. Ubjrire, Xrrana unf orra
jngpuvat gur ragver guvat, naq vf qvfthfgrq. Yhpn rkcynvaf fur unq
gb xabj sbe fher, abj fur qbrf. Xrrana fnlf ur�f zbivat bhg. Ur�f
tbvat gb trg uvf bja cynpr orpnhfr guvf vf trggvat gbb jrveq sbe
uvz. Vg�f pnhfvat svtugf orgjrra uvz naq Wnavar. Ur guvaxf Wnavar
jnagf Yhpn zber guna uvz. (gbyq lbh vg trgf pbashfvat�va n tbbq
jnl.)Yhxr fubjf hc ng Qe. Flqarl�f ubgry. Gurl qevax n yvggyr gb trg va
gur zbbq. Yhxr nfxf ubj qb jr qb vg. Qe. Flqarl rkcynvaf gung fur
unf gb gvr uvz qbja sbe gur svefg gvzr, orpnhfr frk orgjrra gb
�m�f� vf irel cnffvbangr, naq bgurejvfr ur pbhyq trg uheg.Va gur arkg fprar, Yhpn vf gvrq naq tnttrq gb gur orq. Qe. Flqarl
vf abj n thl. Yhxr vf ybpxrq vagb Yhpn, hayrff fur pna trg Qe.
Flqarl gb unir frk jvgu ure ntnva. Qe. Flqarl rkcynvaf gung vf jul
ur pnzr fb dhvpxyl. Ur jnf gverq bs orvat n jbzna, naq hfrq Yhxr gb
orpbzr n thl ntnva. Bu jryy!! Xrrana svaqf Yhpn naq hagvrf ure.
Xrrana rkcynvaf ur oebxr hc jvgu Flqarl. Gurl ner sevraqf ntnva.Abj gur ivrjref trg n erny pheir onyy. Vg fubjf Zvpuryyr trggvat
vagb gur fubjre. Terng obql, ol gur jnl. Fur znfgheongrf naq gheaf
vagb Znk. FUR VF N �M� GBB!!!! Guvf vf jurer gur zbfg
genafsbezngvba fprarf bpphe. Irel jryy qbar jvgu fbzr zbecuvat
fbsgjner. Gur qverpgbe rkcynvarq nsgre gur fubj gung gur urnq vf
fcrpvny rssrpgf ng HFP svyz fpubby pnzr vagb gur cebwrpg naq qvq
guvf. Abguvat fcrpgnphyne gung lbh unira�g frra va Fvera�f Fbat,
ohg jvgu yvir npgvba.Yhpn�f qver fvghngvba npghnyyl trgf Wnavar naq Xrrana onpx gbtrgure
(Lnl!! Gurl jrer tbbq gbtrgure). Gur guerr svaq naq pbasebag Qe.
Flqarl gb sbepr uvz gb unir frk jvgu Yhpn. Ubjrire, ur vf znxvat
bhg jvg nabgure thl. Ur rkcynvaf ur�f tnl. Gung vf jul ur orpnzr
srznyr, fb ur pbhyq rkrepvfr uvf frkhny cersrerapr. Ur�f abg yvxr
Yhxr jub vf urergb jura ur vf va uvf znyr obql, naq urergb jura va
srznyr obql. Ur tbg gverq bs orvat n srznyr naq unq gb svaq n jnl
gb ghea onpx. Ur shegure rkcynvaf gung vg jvyy abg jbex orpnhfr
ur�f abg nggenpgrq gb jbzra. Gurl xabpx uvz qbja naljnl, naq Yhpn
gevrf gb zbhag uvz. Zvpuryyr fhqqrayl nccrnef naq frrf guvf. Fur vf
uheg orpnhfr fur gubhtug gung Yhpn yvxrq Znk. Zvpuryyr ehaf bss.Yhpn tvirf punfr. Fur gevrf gb rkcynva rirelguvat, naq jul fur jnf
qbvat vg. Zvpuryyr fghaf ure ol fnlvat fur xabjf jub fur vf . .
.Yhxr. Zvpuryyr fgvyy ehaf bss.Yhpn gevrf gb znxr gur orfg bs vg. Fur unf gehpx/ratvar gebhoyr
ntnva, naq gnxrf vg onpx bire gb Znk�f tnentr. Znk gryyf ure gung
Zvpuryyr jrag onpx gb Arj Lbex. Yhpn nfxf Znk gb gryy Zvpuryyr gung
fur ybirq ure, naq fur bayl qvq jung fur qvq fb fur pbhyq or jvgu
ure sbe tbbq. Znk vf gbhpurq. Ur snxrf n sbbg vawhel, naq gnxrf uvf
fubr bss. Ur pnyy Yhpn n zbeba sbe abg xabjvat. Xabjvat jung? Ur
fubjf ure n bar bs n xvaq gnggbb ba uvf sbbg gung Zvpuryyr unq.
Yhpn abj xabjf. Gurl cebprrq gb unir frk bire naq bire ntnva.
Fjvgpuvat traqref nf gurl tb. V gubhtug gung jnf ERNYYL ubg, naq
bar bs zl snagnfvrf. Va snpg V�ir arire frra n fgbel dhvgr yvxr
gung. Gur arkg zbeavat vg vf Yhxr naq Zvpuryyr va orq gbtrgure. Fur
fnlf fur unf gb tb gb jbex. Ur fnlf, bxnl, V�z whfg tbvat gb fgnl
va orq nyy qnl. Lrnu, ohg fur pna�g tb va GUVF obql. Gurl fgneg
znxvat ybir ntnva.N arj glcr bs eryngvbafuvc vf obea. Rnpu gnxvat gheaf ng orvat gur
zna naq gur jbzna.Sbyxf. Njrfbzr zbivr. Orsber guvf, �Qngvat gur Rarzl� jnf gur zbfg
ernyvfgvp/uhzna GT zbivr. Guvf oybjf vg njnl. Guvf vf n zhfg frr. V
bayl ubcr zl erivrj unf qbar vg whfgvpr. V pna�g pncgher gur
rzbgvba, cngubf, naq punenpgre qrirybczrag, juvpu ernyyl znxrf n
zbivr oerngur. Gur jubyr gurzr vf pbzvat gb tevcf jvgu frkhny
bevragngvba. Gur guvat juvpu shryf gur jubyr ceboyrz vf gung Yhxr
unq na haqreylvat nggenpgvba gb Znk gung ur qvqa�g rira xabj jnf
gurer. Nf Qe. Flqarl rkcynvaf orsber gur orgenlny, fur pna svk gur
ceboyrz, ohg bayl nsgre Yhxr pbzrf gb grezf jvgu gur cnvashy gehgu.Gurer vg vf: Fvfxry & Roreg yvxr V cebzvfrq.
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From: Mako
, 208 months, post #2 |
SPOILERS BELOW
So I won't go into the full details and synopsis that Raven has
given us (up above).... but I did want to point out that having to
wait over 3 years to see this movie.... and hearing all the great
praise for it from the community... had elevated my expectations
for it. Coming from someone like me.... that is a foreign concept
to say the least
A comedy? Oh dear... anyone who knows me... knows I have a dark
spot in my heart for TF comedies. And although I had been told this
was meant to be a drama with comedic elements... the contrivances
and twists in the script... made my stomach hurt (not in the good
way) and feel this was made more for laughs than taken seriously.
Also... when one reads "Like American Pie... on crack"... one has
to question... drama? I can't really even say it was a romantic
comedy... because quite frankly... there's hardly any romance in
this movie when you boil it down. Just a lot of "implied"
masturbation and sweating at the site of the opposite sex.
Now... not everything is wrong in this film. Martin Curland has
done a good job of capturing the feel of a small Oregon town. Even
the shop that Luke works at is a small dive that feels more at home
in the 1950's than 2007.
The highlight of the movie for me is Dustin Seavey as Luke's best
friend, Keenan. He steals the show everytime he is on the screen...
which is also a bad thing. Mainly because the characters don't feel
developed or interesting enough. Just when we start to get to know
about Luke (his father's death - we are instantly interrupted by
his "newly found curse"). Also... I think Curland's choice of
cuts/compositions also contributed to the feeling I got (of a lack
of character engagement).
I know I know.... I'm one to talk. It's always easier to criticize
than be on the other end (which I often find myself). But
Zerophilia could have been so much more. I sat there... crossing my
fingers that Curland would give us a full blown 3 coarse meal...
and instead feel like I got appetizers.... and a decent banana
split sundae.
One major issue I have - is that we don't spend that much (if not
anytime) really experiencing Luke's TF from a man and into a woman.
It's done more for shock value as he pulls open his shirt and
"walla" he has a pair of breasts. Now... I would have been fine
with this had Curland not then focused on a TF scene with
Max/Michelle. Why invest the time getting to watch a Zerophilia
whom is already quite used to their own body... which leaves no
room for drama? Other than the shock factor is "Wow... Michelle is
Max?" So much more could have been made and focused on with
Luke/Luca's TF... and it wasn't.
Also... as a director myself... I felt nothing was really done with
the cast (on an acting level) to help us believe they were the same
character. Luke/Luca felt like different characters and not the
same person. The same goes for Max/Michelle. Yes... the make-up
crew tried to make the actors/actresses look somewhat similiar...
but that's only 1/2 the battle.
Now another more technical gripe of mine... that the choice of
compositions and editing fell flat for me.
Case in point - What was the deal of Kelly LeBrock running into a
tree - and staying outside the truck and never cutting in to see
her or Luke watching her? You can't relate to characters if you are
always standing away from them. Another example - Gina Bellman
walks into the store to first come on to Luke. We spend a lot of
time on one single coverage shot - and then cut away to another FS
but just slightly to the right next to Luke. Moments like that take
me right out of the movie. And perhaps... I'm a bit too hard on
these kinds of common film making techniques because of what I do.
I do give props to Curland and his producion staff and cast for
making this movie. As hard as I am on it right now (and
disappointed as many people have claimed it's the best M2F TF ever)
I recognize the effort and dedication one has to make to create a
work such as Zerophilia. My hats off to all of them for even
attempting the subject matter But in the end... a show like Ranma
1/2... or even the manga Futaba-Kun Change did this kind of story
already... and did it better. Zeropilia is a step up from many of
the movies that have been made with this subject matter. But it
leaves me asking what Indiana Jones might ask....
"Comedy.... why did it have to be comedy?" Oh he didn't say
that.... he said "Snakes.... why did it have to be snakes?"
- Mako -
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From: Bodyswap1
, 208 months, post #3 |
Mako are your movies for sale?
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From: guest (guest)
, 208 months, post #4 |
I won't go into a great deal of detail, but it is meals have
"courses" not ""coarses" and a banana split is three sundaes
served, side by side, between to long slices of banana (it isn't,
strictly speaking, incorrect -- but saying "banana split sundae" is
like saying "sedan automobile") and -- as any radio/televison/film
professional can tell you a "walla" is a sound effect meant to
simulate the murmuring of a crowd, while "voil�" -- from the french
for "look there" -- is the phrase used by stage magicians to
punctuate a reveal.
As an amateur film maker and animator myself, and someone who paid
for all three of your DVD releases, Mako, I gotta say you are being
unduly critical. Don't get me wrong, you are to be commended for
getting your stuff shot and finished, but you are not in the same
class as the guys who pulled off Zerophilia, either as a story
teller or a filmmaker. Plus which, dude, SPOLERS!
Zerophilia was a competent and workmanlike production that exceeded
expectations on several counts, and certainly made the most of a
microscopic budget.
That said, there were many problems with this film:
Most of your criticisms about shot selection are valid, but I
suspect that they can all be attributed to scheduling problems.
I've worked on a few run-and-gun productions, and I am guessing
that they just didn't have time or money to get coverage on every
scene -- which left them to try to cut what they had into something
resembling the story in the screenplay. More experienced filmmakers
would have been prepared for this, would have done a better job of
hiding the seams in their repairs, and would have had the nerve to
throw away the scenes that just couldn't be made to work, but they
did an okay job.
Taylor Handley wasn't up to the task. He gets credit for some of
the more embarrassing prosthetic make-up scenes, but his acting was
about what you'd expect from a Disney Channel sit-com.
Keenan was, IMO, a tedious and predictable stock character -- and
Dustin Seavey's performance was uninspired.
Gina Bellman was wasted.
Kyle Schmid and Rebecca Mozo both turned in restrained and
well-executed performances, but neither was really given much to
do.
The climax of the movie is a bit of a mess. I cannot tell whether
the filmmakers deliberately jettisoned the traditional Hollywood 3
Act structure, or whether they just screwed it up, but there is an
uncomfortable change in the pace of the film between the climax and
the d�nouement.
Also, it bugged the crap out of me that Luca makes her first
appearance wearing eye shadow, mascara, and lipstick. I am guessing
that Marieh Delfino didn't want to appear on camera without beauty
make up. but it was an obvious and jarring directorial mistake and
it collapsed my willing suspension of disbelief.
As for comparing this to Manga or Anime treatments of similar
material -- Apples and Oranges. I am a big fan of Ranma 1/2, and I
thought Futuba Kun Change was pretty good but -- even ignoring the
cultural differences between Japan and the US, -- comic book
storytelling is significantly different from filmic storytelling.
This is not to say that there are not similarities, and certainly
some kinds of comic books can be successfully made into movies, but
the expectations of the audience for a 90 minute film are very
different from the expectations of the audience for a serialized
comic of the zany-juvenile-manga variety.
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From: Mako
, 208 months, post #5 |
Dear Guest.... (you must have a very large family by the way :)
I appreciate and thank you for taking the time to obtain and watch
my movies. Are they perfect... "hell no". I have the discipline to
step back and see the flaws - listen to the opinions of others -
and know what worked and what didn't. You mention "apples and
oranges" in my opinion of anim/manga/movies... and I can see your
point.... but maybe you need to look at your own comparisons
between my "short" movies and "Zerophillia" (which you are
comparing by the way).
"Zerophilia" = bigger budget/known cast/shot on film/weeks shooting
- used as a vehicle for commercial distribution. My films were
"hobbies". Things to do on the side for "A LOT LESS" money/shot on
video/unknown cast/days shooting - used as a vehicle for selling
the idea of a feature/and just to do for fun. Way more experimental
in their style/story and approach than "Zerophilia".
I've obviously pushed a button with you or else you wouldn't have
taken issue with me? Going after my spelling mistakes? Looks like
you're reaching to discredit me.
"Don't get me wrong, you are to be commended for getting your stuff
shot and finished, but you are not in the same class as the guys
who pulled off Zerophilia, either as a story teller or a filmmaker.
Plus which, dude, SPOLERS!"
I have to ask you... why attack and downgrade me as a filmmaker
unless you have taken this personally? Criticizing my movies and
whether or not they are better or worse than "Zerophillia" is one
thing. I've gotten both positive and negative feedback over my
shorts... and I don't take it personally.
Coming after me personally... when you seem to really have no clue
what I have done outside of these short films does make me think
you haven't done your homework (which in turn leads me to believe
you possibly had something to do with Zeropillia). I'm only
commenting on the movie called "Zerophillia" and what Curland has
created since he was the director. You are commenting about me and
my experience as a whole... which if you believe my TF work is all
I have done... and are basing your opinions on that alone... you
don't know me.
I'll end my response to you... by quoting myself from my first
post:
"I do give props to Curland and his producion staff and cast for
making this movie. As hard as I am on it right now (and
disappointed as many people have claimed it's the best M2F TF ever)
I recognize the effort and dedication one has to make to create a
work such as Zerophilia"
I think this pretty much points out that I respect these filmmakers
and what they have tried to accomplish. If I told you I didn't like
"Citizen Kane" are you going to attack me for my opinions? Even
though I recognize the hard work and effort that went into it?.
Same thing applies here...
- Mako -
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From: guest (vaginemagique)
, 208 months, post #6 |
Can't we all agree we love magical vaginas?
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From: Bodyswap1
, 208 months, post #7 |
Mako I would like to buy all three movies from if you have them for
sale?
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From: Mako
, 208 months, post #8 |
Bodyswap1,
I spoke with Ray (Producer) about this and he thinks he may be able
to sell the DVD's again come this summer for a short time. That's
really all I can tell you at this moment and time.
- Mako -
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From: Bodyswap1
, 208 months, post #9 |
Thank for the information Mako!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: guest (tseug)
, 208 months, post #10 |
Geez Mako -- you post a long, misspelled, and ill-considered
complaint about Zerophilia, reminding us along the way that you are
" a director [yourself", then complain that you are being attacked
when somebody takes you up on your invitation to compare the film
in question to your movies.
Zerophilia has a lot of problems. It is very much an indie
production, and the inexperience of its creators is evident in
every frame. That said, they managed to secure funding, put named
talent in front of the cameras, and get a feature into movie
theaters. In short, they pulled it off. And for all its flaws, the
movie delivers pretty well without trotting out any if the
all-too-familar sex-swap cliches (no high heels, no trying to pee
standing up, etc.).
I am sorry, I respect the hell out of you for getting those three
shorts made and getting people -- including me -- to pay to see
them, but your review (with its unscrambled spoilers) really reads
like you are trying to tell us that the grapes were probably sour
anyway.
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From: guest (InKpott)
, 208 months, post #11 |
I am so glad the response to this flick is there . The corporates
are standing-by , waiting to see just how much of a chance there is
to see if anyone is planning a sequel , if there's any profit
margin will be indicated . . if there's any MONEY to be made if
they BUY the rights to this movie so they can tap in to the T-F,
T-G market , or SCI-FI group . . .
Think I'm not serious ? Think I'm delirious ? ? . . Think I got
JOKES ? ! ?
Yea . . . you just watch . It's not about creativity ,with them . .
.nope .
Dollars n' cents . . .yep . . . .
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From: guest (InKpott)
, 208 months, post #12 | |
Message deleted by cj. Off topic |
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From: Bieeanda
, 207 months, post #13 |
It always amuses me to wonder, about threads like these, if the
long winded personal attacks aimed at critics are coming from
people with a stake in whatever's being discussed.
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From: Repulso
, 207 months, post #14 |
I personally loved "Zerophilia" and yeh, it wasn't perfect by any
means but it was well done and complete without a lot of dumb sex
jokes that tend to dominate way too many main feature TG movies
poured out of Hollywood.
I truly hope for a sequel to "Zerophilia" but in the meantime, I go
over the film again and again filling in with my own imagination
some of the questions that are unanswered in the movie itself.
I hope they made a lot of MONEY$$ on the movie.
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From: Mako
, 207 months, post #15 |
tseug,
I have no problem what so-ever in people's opinions of my movies...
whether they liked them, didn't like them or were indifferent etc.
My experience has always been you can't please everyone all the
time. You may enjoy "Zerophillia" way more than anything I have
ever done... and you know what? Fantastic. I don't take it
personally cause I know everyone has differen't tastes.
My initial review of "Zerophillia" (however flawed my spelling was
at 4:15am in the morning) still holds. I reviewed the movie, and
it's got issues even for an independent film. I have 13 years of
professional experience under my belt working on major motion
pictures. I know what it takes to make these movies... and even in
my initial review... I DID give credit to the efforts made -and I
wonder if that effort I made to point that out keeps falling on
deaf ears here?
That being said... the only reason I keep coming back to this
thread is for one main reason. A personal attack that had little to
do with my movies as much as it had to do with me (which I will
glady re-post again below):
"Don't get me wrong, you are to be commended for getting your stuff
shot and finished, but you are not in the same class as the guys
who pulled off Zerophilia, either as a story teller or a filmmaker.
Plus which, dude, SPOLERS!"
Did that really need to be said? I don't remember stating I was any
better or any worse than the makers of Zerophillia... but when I
get a comment like this... it becomes personal. In addition... the
"spelling" attacks don't really help this not feel like a personal
matter.
Sure... I don't care much for TF comedies. I take the time to point
that out. That's a preference. I have the right to say it... just
like many people have told me they don't care for TF Horror (which
my shorts are).
Like you bought my shorts... I also bought "Zerophillia". I wanted
to support these guys. I think they have a lot of potential. Now
whether they want to make TF related material... I don't know. But
I wish them luck with any future endeavors.
- Mako -
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From: cj
, 207 months, post #16 |
Please keep this thread ON TOPIC - about Zerophilia ONLY! No
personal attacks, please.
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From: Michael Binary
, 207 months, post #17 |
Hmm...it's pretty hard to be fair.
And...well...I haven't seen the whole movie of Zerophilia nor
Mako's work, just the clips of Zerophilia and Eleven(TLPS and so
one).
I was very (positive) surprised about the showing transformation
scene in Eleven.
And, I told it to Mako already few years back, I am not so into
horror movies, I prefer SciFi-stuff. (But House from 1986 is, I am
sorry, pretty funny [<<---is it allowed? , and still a kind
of a mild shocker ).
Back to topic: I have seen the clip of Zerophila in which the
Zerophiliac transform into his female equivalent.
The scene shown in the clip is, in comparsion with Eleven, really
simple :-)
(maybe the scene of the whole feature is different from the clip)
So, I thought, basically Eleven bases on the very long
transformation, while Zerophilia
pull it's storyline from other things, like dialogues or...I have
just seen both clips.
I think, one cannot compare the work from different directors.
(no one compare 2001-A space odyssey with Alien, and both movie are
milestones and so different, both movies have similar ratings on
IMDB)
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From: cj
, 207 months, post #18 |
"... is it allowed?"
Sure, you're commenting on the comparisons of Zerophilia to other
works.
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From: guest (guste)
, 207 months, post #19 | |
Message deleted by cj. Most of this post was OFF-TOPIC and a personal attack, after I have asked for everyone to keep this thread on-topic and to refrain from personal attacks. HERE IS THE EDITED VERSION: Michael - certainly you can compare the work of different directors when they are treating the same material, or working in the same genre...Mako -- it was not a personal attack, it was a rebuke for what was -- IMO -- an ill-considered and disingenuous review of the movie...I tell you plainly, allowing for differences in scope and budget, Zerophilia is more successful effort than any of the Mako trilogy... movies actually compare favorably to Zerophilia when it comes to production values and effects, and you ought to be proud of your technical achievements in that regard... And I am done. We now return you to your regularly scheduled "Message Deleted -- Spam" posts, and demands for free clips of copyrighted material. |
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From: guest (guste)
, 207 months, post #20 |
Quote Makoe: "I have no problem what so-ever in people's opinions
of my movies... "
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This thread has been locked.
Reason:abuse - continual off-topic posting.
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