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Christa Wolf book Nachdenken /
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The main character, a female student, is tranformed into a man as a scientific experiment. The story focuses on the mental transformation that is slowly brought about by the physical transformation... East German TV made this into a TV movie in 1989 |
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From: guest (BlueshifTG)
, 210 months, post #1 |
I can't speak to East German TV, but the book "Nachdenken Uber
Christa T." by Christa Wolf is a girl's coming-of-age in pre-WWII
Germany and has no TG elements. I acquired it after seeing it on
this list, and I'm not sorry--it's quite a good book--but it
doesn't belong here.
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From: Michael Binary
, 210 months, post #2 |
The entry remembers me on "Selbstversuch", a TV-production AFAIK by
DEFA from the former GDR(now Germany). I have seen the movie. It
ran here (former Western Germany) on TV(ZDF) in ~1990 or earlier.
It contains exact the mentioned F2M sexchange.
Feministische phantastisch-utopische Literatur
There is an entry for "Selbstversuch. Traktat zu einem Protokoll"
written by Christa Wolf.
Click to show spoiler
Qvr qhepu Uhznatrargvx trfpuyrpugfhztrjnaqrygr Senh mh rvarz Znaa,
ung qnaa nhpu fc�gre Frk zvg vuere/frvare orfgra Serhaqva. Va rvare
Fmrar hagre qre Qhfpur svaqrg fvr/re qnf arhr Fg�px vuerf/frvarf
X�ecref nhftrcebpura vagrerffnag.
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From: cj
, 210 months, post #3 |
Okay... so there is no TG in the book, is there any transformation
in the book that would qualify it for this board?
Also, am I correct in thinking that the German TV show that does
contain a TG TF element is named "Selbstversuch"
and NOT "Nachdenken"
?
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From: Michael Binary
, 210 months, post #4 |
Hmm...I haven't read the book "Nachdenken �ber Christa T".
But I am sure for "Selbstversuch", this movie, 105 min (Sci-Fi),
contains a TG F2M element.
Click to show spoiler
Nsgre gur [v]zber be yrff[/v] ( trargvpnyyl n cresrpg frkpunatr,
ohg yngre gur sbezre jbzna vf tbvat vagb fbzr gebhoyr orpnhfr
uvf/ure srryvatf ) fhpprffshyyl "Bcrengvba", n srznyr pb-jbexre
nyfb jnagf gb or zna. Fur xvqqrq gb ure znyr pb-jbexre gb qb gur
fnzr, gb orpbzr n jbzna naq ur ercylrq, ur jvyy guvax nobhg vg. Gur
fpvragvfg-yrnqre bs gur cebwrpg, fnvq vg'f nyfb cbffvoyr gb orpbzr
n jbzna. Gur zbivr jnf cebqhprq nf n qenzn, naq cbvagrq bhg gur
cbffvoyr hc pbzvat ceboyrzf bs n [v]cresrpg[/v] S2Z frkpunatr.
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From: cj
, 210 months, post #5 |
Thanks, Michael Binary. :-)
Let me know if I need to change the description in the new entry
for the movie.
http://metamorphose.org/entry/index.htp?&entid=6732&
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From: Michael Binary
, 210 months, post #6 |
It's great, cj. Thanks a lot. It's just my poor English that may be
worse.
I guess the encryption works via shift rotate. And it rotate the to [v.
Actually, I used the FIDO-Net in the late '80ies and the early
'90ies. GoldEd(a FIDO-Net message reader/editor) used the shift
rotate methode. Shift rotate 8 or 9, I can't remember. For that
case take this short list v14/w13/x12/y11/z10/a9/b8/c7/d6/e5/f4/g3/h2/i1
or i1/j2/k3/l4/m5/n6/o7/p8/q9/r10/s11/t12/u13/v14
and in that case the letter ' v ' like vemale :), just
kidding...please type ' v ' and ' i ' appears in the encrypeted
spoiler as ' i '. Theoretical :)
Please correct me if I am wrong.
I will try it on my next entry or comment.
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From: cj
, 210 months, post #7 |
Sounded reasonable to me... so I just tried to use "v" in place of
"i" for the italics in the spoiler text - and it didn't work...
gave me a bracketted "v" when the spoiler text was shown. *shrug*
Oh well, at least we know that the text was supposed to be
italicized. :-)
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From: Michael Binary
, 210 months, post #8 |
Cool :-((
I knew it, computer and their equipment are more human than we are
thinking.
After reading your threat about "Eragon" (I have the book,
translated), I am convinced, formating features won't work on
spoilers encryption, unfortunately.
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From: guest (magma)
, 210 months, post #9 |
Here is a long analysis (in german) of the book
"Geschlechtertausch" (ISBN 3423613157 and 3630613152) consisting of
three F2M stories written in the GDR:
http://interactivescript.org/ias/fem-sf/www/hauptspalte.html?VorlNr=3
The stories are:
- "Blitz aus heiterem Himmel", Sarah Kirsch, 1975
- "Gute Botschaften der Valeska in 73 Strophen", Irmtraud Morgner,
1980
- "Selbstversuch. Traktat zu einem Protokoll", Christa Wolf, 1973
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From: cj
, 210 months, post #10 |
Okay... so there's a story "Selbstversuch"
in the book "Geschlechtertausch"
that also contains some TG TF's...
But can anybody else verify that there is a TF of any type in the
book "Nachdenken"
?
As it stands right now, it appears that this entry should be
removed... unless someone can tell us why it should stay.
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From: guest (magma)
, 210 months, post #11 |
The book is just a compilation of those stories. They have
previously been released on their own.
As for "Nachdenken �ber Christa T.", I doubt there is any TG in it.
The english title is "The Quest for Christa T."
Here are some links with english information about that book:
http://www.enotes.com/salem-lit/quest-for-christa-t-9230000010
http://www.fembio.org/english/biography.php/woman/biography/christa-wolf/
http://www.signandsight.com/features/417.html
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From: cj
, 210 months, post #12 |
Thank you for those links magma!
I'll let this stick around for another day or two and see if there
are any other comments.
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