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From: guest (Dean)
, 25 months, post #1 |
I was browsing the Astral Projection forums, I found a possible
testimony Real swap souls or transfer souls! Older man stole a
teenage girl's body! the girl's brother describes the events
https://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/sudden_change_in_personality_possibility_of_a_body_swap-t46856.0.html
Hello, I am new to the forums and I find the subject of Astral
Projection to be very intriguing.
Main reason for my interest is mainly due to an experience I (or
rather my little sister) had underwent, 4 years ago. She had
underwent a rather super natural experience when practising Astral
Projection 4 years ago when she was 16.
Of course the subject of Body Swapping has been disregarded as
fiction and many practitioners have claimed it to be fake or
impossible. Naturally we thought the same but my sister was rather
drawn in when she meet someone online who claimed they could do
something a bit more special than just projecting their spirits out
of their body.
Normally I wouldn't discuss about this sort of thing, but
considering what my 'sister' had been doing... it felt like a
subject that had to be discuss to find out more about what had
happen and is about to happen.
So 4 years ago, me and my sister had an interest in 'body swapping'
of course this was some light curiosity and nothing serious and
when researched we came across the concept of Astral Projection,
the ability to project ones Astral body from their physical shell
and enter the astral plane. Main thing we discovered was the
concept of the silver cord and how body swapping was impossible.
I naturally had no desire to pursue such knowledge but my sister
wanted to know more and experience it for herself so she found
herself a so called 'teacher'. This man or woman claimed they were
an expert at Astral Projection and so they taught my sister the
basics and guided her and after a few months she told me that she
had finally did it and was able to project out of her body. I
honestly felt a bit disturbed but thought it was most likely her
imagination.
Afterwards this person strung her along and told her that they
could do more and when my sister caught on and was interested, they
decided to tell her about stories of their experimentation to
progress their spiritual abilities and wanted to achieve the
ability to switch bodies 'temporarily'.
From what I could remember, this person once had a partner, a girl
who had a don't care what happened to her body attitude and was
able to claim control over their body for a brief period of time
but due to the imperfections of their techniques they had to switch
backs but since then he or she had refined their techniques and was
willing to share it with my sister.
My sister was apparently hesitant but in the end she went along
with it... how she explained it to me was that the concept of the
silver cord was a defence mechanism that prevented the Astral Body
(The Soul/Spirit) from leaving the Physical Shell and anchoring you
to it and keeping you alive. In addition, if so called evil spirits
and demons could possess a vacant body, then why can't a
disembodied Spirit/Soul/Astral body do the same? His/Her point was,
it was due to how immoral and evil the idea of taking over someone
else body was, it soon became a unspoken taboo and unconscious
trigger to disregard the concept and possibility of body transfer.
But once you abolish such thoughts and focus on synchronising
yourself with your partner, you could in theory, over time
temporarily claim control of the others body (apparently, but I
heard from many others this was not possible). That person however
suggested such method was imperfect, the Astral Body which is your
spiritual body, would not match up with the current body it would
possess and negative side effects would show as you tried to claim
possession over the body.
So they came up with the concept of dividing the Spiritual Self
into multiple layers. There is the body which is your physical
identity and contains the physical memories of your life and
experience, the Spirit which is the Spiritual body that you possess
in your current life and the form you will take in this
incarnation, this is also the thing apparently tethering you to
life and when you die this is the part that expires and it contain
all your spiritual memories like your karma. Then there is the Soul
the inner most part of you that forms your consciousness and makes
you, you... By synchronising yourself with a willing participant,
it would then be possible to merge your energy and transfer your
essence and conscious knowledge of who you are, over to your new
Spiritual body/container and return to the new physical body.
That was the concept of the body swap, my sister thought it was
interesting, I tried to dissuade her from doing anything with that
person but in the end she went through with it. 4 years ago she was
out cold for hours in a state which liked like she was sleeping but
no outside stimulants would wake her up and when she awoke, she
felt different, like she would act and behave how she would but it
felt like an act like she wasn't really herself. When I asked her
she just said it was bunch of lies and nothing really happen but I
kept feeling uneasy and over time there was evident changes to her
personality and soon she was a different person.
It wasn't until later, that I realised that this person had
essentially buttered up the concept and sweet talked her into the
transference and once he or she had completed the transfer, my
sister had became a victim of a Essence Transfer Ritual, her
Physical Body and current incarnated spirit was now his/her. I mean
I could be paranoid but after some digging around, I did find that
person my sister spoke too, I meet up with them and it was a bit
shocking too feel such nostalgia talking to someone I never meet
before, their manner and behaviour wasn't like some spiritual
master but more of a rough, depress and beaten man that had lost
everything... I mean they kept dodging and avoiding some questions
I threw at them when trying to confirm whether or not it was my
sister inside that person. Best answer I got was that their
memories was a bit fuzzy and that they shouldn't talk about it, and
even if they did who would believe such a story.
I know some of you may not take this seriously and disregard this
and claim it is a story but I just want to clarify what actually
happened, did my sister undergo some miraculous soul switching
transfer? I mean the closest thing I found was some Tibetan Body
Swapping method that a friend of mine told me about. I mean as we
speak my sister has been talk to some people online and like 4
years ago, she is behaving like that person sweet talking them into
opening themselves up for a Transfer. I mean a few times I spotted
my sister, she would show some disgust as the girl who was
requesting for Spiritual Guidance was frail and really sickly
looking.
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From: guest (Dean)
, 25 months, post #2 |
A walk in, would suggest a bodily possession whilst some is
projecting out of body right?
I mean one thing I've been trying to work out is, did my sister
have her body literally stolen and this person isn't actually my
sister and her essence was transferred elsewhere or is my sister
still inside her body, but a third party element is now mixed in
and is in control of her/possessing her like a parasite until it
moves on?
Also, if my sister really was inside this guy, why wouldn't she
just admit it? I mean the only thing I can logically think of, is
that they are scared or they are just pretending... I mean I
originally believed it could have been BS but being scared seems to
be plausible as they seemed rather despairingly depress and void of
hope, I mean if by some off chance that a transference can occur
and mythical body swapping can be achieved, then how would you
prove it? You can't exactly say hey I'm so and so, please help me,
my body got stolen, I mean anyone would be go what are you going on
about.. So since it been like 4 years, maybe she has given up hope
on recovering her body or convincing others that she is a victim of
a body snatched and has been forced into a vessel that does not
belong to her.
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@Nameless
It has been a rather uncomfortable subject cause it just seems
really unbelievable and I was half expecting people to not believe
me. Personally I wouldn't pursue such things myself but it has been
something that has been eating away at me as it feels like I have
my sister physically here but on the inside it just doesn't feel
like it is her at all.
I totally agree with the term 'hook, line and sinker' as nasty as
that sounds for my little sis. I mean the person who she did the
transfer with, did mention a number of 'failures' they had made due
to imperfections in their original techniques and have been
refining their methods with each encounter. I mean having seen some
of her old emails and having read through some old messages in the
past, this person had avoided explaining the true side effects and
negative effects of the so called 'swaps' but claims that his
partners were happy with the outcome and enjoyed the experience and
just kept sweet talking her.
After the apparent switch, my sister still behaved like she would
but it felt fake, but for a month of so she had been rather distant
and on occasions rather defensive and cautious of her surroundings.
She would always talk to someone in secrecy and most of the time it
would be in a rather hostile tones... in the end once everything
settled down that when changes happen, she turned from a shy,
timid, quiet and rather energetic girl into someone who wasn't
ashamed of bashful and had gained sudden experience in doing things
she never done before, even her style had changed and to be fair I
and many others just shrugged it off as it being a phased she was
going through but considering the amount of scouting she has been
doing,it just feels like they are repeating the process and will
soon hop out and enter someone else.
I mean it just seems silly, but there no way two people can just
switch places right? I mean I try to be as normal as I have been
with her but it just doesn't seem to faze her and I just bugs me
that it might not even really be her on the inside... Personally I
don't think it is possible to swap places with someone, I mean
possession I hear a lot more about but is that really the case? I
mean it could be just paranoia on my part but having read about
vampires and i'm just worried that some sort of parasitic being is
just leeching off of my sister until they get bored of her being.
I hope this hasn't doesn't seem too out of whack, but it just a
topic that I don't know how to explain or even deal with. I mean in
the first place, if you open yourself completely... is it possible
to have your entire Physical and Spiritual being hijacked by
another essence and then shoved into another vessel and spiritual
container?
So I have been wondering... just how vulnerable is the human body
when you are projected out of it?
From my understanding, there are a lot of defence mechanism in
place and it seems that whilst projecting, most projectors are
conscious of their body and retain a sensitive link to it so that
they can quickly wake up or return when something happens to their
physical flesh. But what if you dive deep enough or was assisted
out of your body without knowing how to protect yourself? What
happens then? Is the body in any danger?
So in the case I mentioned about my sister apparent body swap, so
it took some time and some curage to question both my sister and
this man indivudally and get both accounts of their story and I'm
not sure if it real or fake but according to their stories it seem
my sister was lured out of her body and her physical vessel was
hijacked.
When this had happened she was told to relax and let go of
everything and to allow the process to take place, she felt an
external energy invading her body and stimulating a deep part of
herself and having allowed the simulated pleasure to take over, her
core essence felt like it was torn out from her body and she
apparently projected from her body. She described the experience as
being strange as she was formless and felt incredibly vulnerable
and disconnected from her body/existence/identity but her 'guide'
fed her pleasurable energy to calm her down and they dived really
deep into the astral experience and that was when my sister was
abandoned.
The person had been connecting his essence with her for the sole
intent on stealing her physical vessel, apparently according to
him, or rather her now... she had an obsession with the concept of
swapping bodies and transferring his essence from his body into
anothers, in particular a females but he found that most
practitioners found it immoral, impossible and it seem to be an
unspoken taboo of some sorts. So they resorted to self studying,
coming up with theories, looking into darker and more ancient arts
and developed this method... Of course the issue was finding
someone willing to test it on, most partners were not suitible so
instead her groomed one and just lured my sister into a trap. I
mean such methods would be akin to being a dark/evil spirit...
So having abandoned his body and soul and the connection to it,
leaving the body in a comatose/vacant state and having forced my
sister's essence from her body and separated it from his soul, he
began merging his own spirit with her body and took possession of
the abandoned body. Because the Soul and Body is in the correct
body, his essence just filled the void and took possession of the
body since he ensured that she would leave her body with as minimal
protection as possible.
Of course for my sisters essence, she was lost where she was left
and by the time she had wondered back to the physical realm where
her former body was left, it wasn't there and some time had passed.
What scared her most was that her body was moving on its own and
when she attempted to approach it she would be repelled by an
invisible force. But sister claimed she was on the verge of giving
in and accepting her fate as a disembodied essence as she felt a
fading energy connection which she assumed was her tether to the
mortal realm and she drifted off to what she presumed was the next
life but instead she found herself in the place where that persons
abandon body was, that was left for dead essentially and not
wanting to die or be trapped in her current state she took over the
near dead body.
To be honest, even I find this story to be quite out there... I
mean... I would appreciate what other people think but I don't
know... a big part of me feels like I should believe the story as
it was evident that my sister at the time her body was 14 was
acting bizarrely at the time like she was unaccustomed to with
herself. I mean from my own independent research it seems like my
sister was a victim of Trung Jug and to be fair, most myths and
legends are depict from a certain amount of truth... I mean this
person behaviour is incredibly immoral and is evil and malicious...
almost like a demon or evil spirit as he/she had his/her eyes set
on my Sister 14 year old body, blacked mailed her to convince her
to never speak of it and to claim rights over it so she couldn't
demand it back and held onto the body for 5 years...
At this point I don't even know what to make of it... was it my
sister fault for allowing this to happen to her... or was that
person never wrong to do what he did as he/she claims she became my
sister as the body and soul is still her but her
consciousness/personality is just something foreign that had taken
over. I mean even if it was a prank I doubt people would be sick
enough to keep it going for 5 years.
Edit: I forgot to mention that this person was quite crafty, cause
the reason for my original question was the fact this person wanted
my sister to project whilst she was away from home, his goal was to
apparently to scoop up her physical body should he fail to possess
it then spend time working his way into her body so that even if
her spirit return the body would not be in the place she had left
it.
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From: guest (Possessor)
, 25 months, post #3 |
I 100% believe body possession with the help of astral projection
is possible, but it is extremely difficult. I have read many books
related to the subject and have been doing research on it for close
to 10 years now. My goal is to permanenty possess the body of the
woman of my dreams. I know this sounds evil but I believe this is
my destiny and I want it more than anything in this world. I will
read the comments on the page you linked to when I will have more
time later this week, and write more, and will also reply to any
questions.
And if anyone wants to reach out to me in private, let me know.
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From: guest (Rageoficeman)
, 25 months, post #4 |
@Dean are you the original poster of this topic from the website or
did you just find it?
I have read this 5 times now and I am curious about how the story
turns from a kinda I dont know if it happened to it actually
happened with some extra details about what the sister experienced.
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From: guest (Dean)
, 25 months, post #5 |
@Possessor
I also have the same thought and waste! aware it's possible the
process is difficult. everything needed depends on skills,
willpower and mental concentration. It took them a while to fully
master astral travel and explore their uncharted territory! break
all taboos! it takes a lot of practice and observation on the
astral plane of how it works!
looking for New ways to switch life and body completely! find out
what are mystical secrets and techniques
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From: guest (Tights)
, 25 months, post #6 |
C'mon, guys, this isn't real.
It's just someone making shit up on the internet. If you guys are
really looking for a real way in which body swap might become real
one day in the future go and search about full body transplant
technology, as well as the work of neurosurgeon Robert J. White,
who did a lot of research on head transplant, isolated brains and
full body transplants back in the day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_transplant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_J._White
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From: guest (Iron age)
, 25 months, post #7 |
@Rageoficeman
I have the same feeling like you? And the same question came to my
mind as I read this. ๐
@Possesser or was it Possessor ๐ค ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ณ ๐
. If we want to reach you
out in private, how do we contact you?
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From: guest (Rageoficeman)
, 25 months, post #8 |
Reply here and u can email me at rageoficeman@hotmail.com
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From: guest (Possessor)
, 25 months, post #9 |
@Iron age I can be reached at my gmail address, it's
"suntorypeach".
@Tights I am not saying I have any proof this is real. All I am
saying is that I want to do as much research on it as I can.
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From: guest (Dean)
, 25 months, post #10 |
@Rageoficeman Yes, Original topic
the teen girl get stuck in the permanent older man body! looks to
be 30 years old or 40 years old! she didn't have the courage to say
who she was to her brother due to shame and fear! 2016-2017 topic
forum was event report! at that time the possessed sister is 19
years old, spirit possesses and has been in the girl's body since
she was 14 years old, her soul is already out of her body and could
not return! older man really wanted to restart his life! laid trap
already prepared, and tricked her stole the girl's body! then they
both had to live each other's lives! girl in man body was far from
home and probably on the other side of the country! she managed to
find her brother after years!
Now 2022 the girl (body sister) must be 23 years old. I don't know
what happened to both of them! I see total mystery! There is not
much information!
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From: guest (Dean)
, 25 months, post #11 |
I also found ritual failed body swap on the astral projection Forum
2013
Does anyone here know how you can possess someone or switch bodies
with them?
Me and my friend both want to temporarily switch bodies/possess
each other, so this is completely consensual. I'm not trying to
possess anyone without their permission.
People have mentioned the "silver cord" thing in replies to similar
questions about body-switching, but I'm not entirely convinced that
it exists. The astral body may have an almost "magnetic" attraction
to its correct physical body, but I don't know if any actual "cord"
exists. With astral projection you can travel anywhere in the
universe - so why not simply into someone else's body? I'm also not
entirely convinced that any actual "cord" exists because I have
read about trong-jug yogis actually switching bodies with people,
but there is very little information about how they did it out
there. So it seems like this is definitely possible, I'm just
lacking the knowledge.
My friend and I will both astral project at the same time, so our
bodies will be vacant. We just don't know how to actually get
inside each other's bodies after that.
If you know how to do this, I will be eternally grateful if you'd
share this info!!!
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. There are a lot
of interesting tips and theories here. This is an update:
We have tried 4 times so far and the first 2 times we failed just
because we failed to exit at the same time. One of us would always
exit before and the other would struggle and be 15 minutes slower
or even fall asleep. So synchronized projecting was an issue half
the time.
The last 2 times we didn't project at the same time, but we were
within 5 minutes of each other. Then we tried to enter each other's
bodies and did not succeed. We tried to just slip in there by
laying over and "sinking into" the each other's bodies, then we
tried to act as if we were coming back to our own bodies after a
normal astral projection session, but pretending that my friend's
body was my body, and mine was his. But when we came back to, we
were in our original bodies. After the first try failed we tried to
figure out what we did that was wrong and modified it the second
time by entering with more force the second time instead of sinking
in. That didn't make a difference the second time, so the problem
isn't force or speed, but something else. Does anyone have any
ideas of what was done incorrectly?
The technique we tried did not succeed the first 4 times, but we
will keep trying it and refining it and see what happens while also
trying other techniques. One that caught my eye while doing more
research on this subject was one of the 10 secondary Hindu Siddhis
called Parkaya Pravesha, which means oneโs soul entering into the
body of some other person or animal. Here is a page that outlines
the process for anyone who is interested:
h t t p : / / w w w . virtualsynapses . c o m
/2010/09/entering-and-controlling-bodies-of.html#.UonLDeIS5BA
We will continue trying to do it by astral projection but will also
start trying it by Parkaya, then using some Trongjug techniques I
found. I will let you all know if any of those work.
I wouldn't take our failure to mean that the techniques themselves
don't work, though, because we aren't highly skilled yogis or
anything. All we can do is astral project and we still can't do it
exactly at will, and remote view with about 30-40% accuracy. We are
not that good. I think a more skilled buddhist or hindu monk that
had been practicing these things since childhood could probably
succeed with these techniques when we can't.
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From: guest (Dean)
, 25 months, post #12 |
https://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=57866
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From: guest (MissX)
, 7 months, post #13 |
Just to clarify a few things.
The story is either true or either fiction, after all who would
believe me or believe anyone if i told you body swapping was real?
You either believe in it or you don't.
Now as for the body in question, the girl was 14 in 2010 when she
met the person she would swap with and in 2012 the body swap
occured when the girl, the body was 16. In 2016 the story was
reported and the body is 20 and now the body is 27 years old
Perhaps they still have that body or perhaps they plan to exchange
it? Who knows, afterall why would they reveal themselves after so
many years in their new life and body?
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From: guest (CG)
, 7 months, post #14 |
Like Missa said, maybe it is or isnโt real. Or maybe there is
something that we donโt know about that can accomplish such a thing
but this story is in fact as fictional as anything. I do know there
is more than we know out there and things that canโt be explained.
An interesting thought, but if it were real we would have to
discover ourselves. Astral projection as a thing is already
controversial, but if it is real why not possession through astral
projection?
Frankly though if it were real, I would probably not do anything
with it. As much as I enjoy the fantasy the prospect of possessing
a different body is more horror than pleasure
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From: guest (MissX)
, 7 months, post #15 |
Fact of the matter is, if there was a Body Swapper out there, how
many people will actually believe them if they told you that they
had switch bodies?
I agree with CG, even if the story is real the winner is the Body
Swapper who succeeded in exchanging vessels.
If I said I was the Body Swapper, 99% of the people here wouldn't
believe me and even if they did what are you going to do? It's been
11 years according to the story. The Hopper would still be in
control of the whole thing. They can keep the body, switch to a new
body and if they ditch their old one, why would they want it back
and would the original persona even be willing to take back a body
that has been through god knows what for the last 11 years?
I think Horror is the more realistic description of Body Swap, it
is sheer fantasy and half heartedness if you plan to temporarily
swap or look for someone to consent to body swapping and who knows
if the story is true, I would imagine it would take a lot of
baiting and luring and even grooming and manipulation to get new
body
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From: guest
, 7 months, post #16 |
If the story is real this is most likely a mental illness on the
brothers end rather than an actual body swap guys, letโs be real.
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From: guest (Thriller16161)
, 7 months, post #17 |
I do remember an article somewhere about using vr to simulate a
body swap.
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From: guest
, 7 months, post #18 |
@Post 16,
This reminded me of a manga called Inside Mari where it was
revealed at the end that the supposed body swap was just the girl
having mental illness and pretended to be her male classmate in her
body.
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From: guest
, 7 months, post #19 |
This is a website for fantasies; things that aren't and likely
never will be possible in the real world.
Astral projection is pseudoscience and hallucinatory.
If the person who wrote this story seriously believes this has
happened, then I sincerely hope they eventually received help for
their psychotic delusions. If his sister underwent this personality
change (and the brother is GULLIBLE enough to believe that it's a
real-life body swap), I hope she eventually received help for her
mental disorder. Considering this post was made seven years ago,
the people involved will either have received help, be in a mental
hospital, be dead or the story was fabricated by someone
fantasising or trolling.
Let's stay focused on what this website is about: FICTION.
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From: guest
, 7 months, post #20 |
Yeah this just reads like a schizophrenic episode by the brother.
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not repeat this information to the message board. Doing so will be
considered spamming.
Miscellaneous
- This list is neither all-inclusive or all-exclusive in nature, and
is meant to guide everyone on appropriate content for and conduct
on this Message Board.
- The purpose of this Message Board is to share information about
transformation-related content, news, ideas, etc. Also acceptable,
are conversations that are of interest to the transformation
community.
- Moderation of posts for reasons not listed above are at the
discretion of the Trusted Users who moderate this website, for the
purpose of keeping things within the "spirit" of the owner's wishes
and the website's purpose.
- If you disagree with a moderation decision, please make an argument
as to why it should be reinstated. Use the posting guidelines to justify your point.
Do not attack the moderator.
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