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From: guest (guest)
, 11 months, post #141 |
Tuggy, you're so nit-picky when it comes to the body swap genre.
You always look for the negative in it instead of appreciating the
fact the genre gets new stuff, even if it's not to your
specifications.
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From: guest
, 11 months, post #142 |
Tuggy you're such a nitpick with body swaps.
If you don't like the QL style, why do you bother with it? You
always find something to complain about.
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From: guest (5 8 3 0)
, 11 months, post #143 |
Well kreplach, we're all humans who make mistakes sometimes.
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From: Tuggy24g
, 11 months, post #144 |
First off, I'm just stating a fact that you won't see much of her.
This iteration of the quantum leap is more sci-fi action than the
original. Where the original had more feminine sexual scenes.
Maybe I'm of the minority in this group. But I never understood how
somebody can make a TV show about a guy swapping into different
people's bodies (male or female) for a specific reason. Yet most of
the show unless you saw the beginning of it. You would have no idea
he even swapped bodies. So the whole point of the show becomes
irrelevant in a sense in my options. So you're basically just
seeing the main actor? Do whatever mission he was sent to do. Also
protect the person that he's supposed to be in the body of.
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From: guest
, 11 months, post #145 |
I agree with you Tuggy24g.
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From: guest (3 2 9 1)
, 11 months, post #146 |
I guess the idea of seeing Sam or Ben as Marion Crane in Psycho or
a younger or older Christina Crawford in Mommie Dearest won't
happen anytime soon.
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From: guest (Madaba)
, 11 months, post #147 |
I think we have to realize that the rest of the world doesn’t have
a jerk off impulse to seeing a man in a woman’s body so it’s more
about the concept than the situation.
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From: Tuggy24g
, 11 months, post #148 |
I am not talking about a fetish at all. I understand that a good
amount of us think that body swapping or any form around that is a
fetish.
Yet the concept of the show original and current version. Is that
Sam transports and takes over other people's bodies. To do a
mission to save the person's life, change the path for somebody
else, Or for an event that need something done. With the help of
his sidekick who informs him on the mission. Yet almost a whole
episode you would never know. He's in somebody else's body unless
they're in front of a mirror or something that shows his
reflection.
So my point is that if the show is about doing something in
somebody else's body. Yet 90-95% of the episodes you have no idea
he's in somebody else's body. Then the main plot of the show makes
no sense.
As I said before. I'm not trying to go again people that like this
and trying to say the show sucks. Just to me the show makes no
sense on how it is presented original and current version.
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From: guest
, 11 months, post #149 |
"So my point is that if the show is about doing something in
somebody else's body. Yet 90-95% of the episodes you have no idea
he's in somebody else's body. Then the main plot of the show makes
no sense."
Then you'd have to cast numerous actors over and over. You wouldn't
have a central start to the show.
Again. You're nitpicking.
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From: Tuggy24g
, 11 months, post #150 |
I'll agree to disagree with you and everybody else on here. I don't
want to get into a fight. I like this community here so much.
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From: guest (3 5 2 3)
, 11 months, post #151 |
Tuggy24, could this also explain for the exact same reason with
Disney's The Jersey as well although with athletic personalities
(except Kiely Williams of 3LW and a white cheerleader of the
Oakland Raiders) because I'm assuming kids jumping into the bodies
of athletic personalities with the use of a magical jersey would've
been considered way more creepier than an adult White or Asian guy
with an accelerator leaping into women.
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From: guest (Guest)
, 11 months, post #152 |
Tuggy, then you've missed the complete point of the entire show.
The original's premise was about Sam Beckett who involuntarily
leaps through time into the bodies of people in different times and
places. The show focused on humor, social commentary, and time
travel/science fiction. To say "90-95% of the episodes you have no
idea he's in somebody else's body" is ignorant.
Unless it's an anthology show with different casts each episode,
the show's concept is focuses on Sam Beckett (and in the revival,
Ben Song). It's so the viewer has a character to attach to. Plus,
in Scott Bakula's case, he had a wider arrangement of acting to fit
the character he played that week.
Your problem solely focuses on "you don't see the body he's in and
you forget." You must really think viewers are dumb if they're
watching the series and have an idea of the show's concept.
Besides, what you want (to see each actor full time every week).
That same logic of "you have no idea he's in someone else's body"
can be applied here. How can you get attached to the main character
if the actor changes every episode? Simple logic. If you can't get
attached to the character, then what's the point in watching the
show?
What it sounds like you want, Tuggy, is just a body swap fetish
show. Quantum Leap has never, and will never, be that. And yet you
have to constantly post how disappointing it is. So my question is
this: why are you watching it? It's clearly not for you. So let
people enjoy it how they want. You clearly don't.
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From: guest (Para)
, 11 months, post #153 |
Tuggy I’m with you 100%.
@Guest post #152. Obviously it’s not hard to understand the
logistical reasons reasons for how they portray the swaps. That
still doesn’t mean it’s a compelling or interesting way to explore
the concept. Watching the original episodes back when they aired,
years before I was into any of the transformation stuff, It still
always felt like a missed opportunity to really get into some
meaty/juicy stories.
The social commentary at the time still wasn’t exactly
revolutionary and the exploration of the different lives was mostly
surface level and full of stereotypes.
They took a pretty radical concept that could go to some deep/dark
places, and made it into a milquetoast show with the least
interesting possible creative choices. And again, I understand why,
the more interesting version of the show would never have made it
onto American network TV, And I mean more interesting in the sense
of exploring the depths of the characters/leapees, not fetishizing
body swaps. Even if I understand why they made the choices, I still
don’t think they make it a better show.
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From: guest (Guest)
, 11 months, post #154 |
@guest (Para)
"The social commentary at the time still wasn’t exactly
revolutionary"
Maybe it resonates better with people who watch it years later vs
then. You don't know that.
"I understand why they made the choices, I still don’t think they
make it a better show."
It's got a cult fandom and has resonated over 30 years. But sure,
it's not a better show.
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From: guest (moosesux)
, 11 months, post #155 |
remake is just trash...even the original wasn't as deep as the
people on here make it out to be....memberberries
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From: guest (3 1 6 4)
, 11 months, post #156 |
regarding the original, I wonder if this also is supported by the
LGBTQ+ community regarding episodes where Sam leaps into women.
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From: guest
, 10 months, post #157 |
Photos from the next episode went up, but there's not much that
might be of interest to us. The only thing that's sort of
interesting from a TG perspective is that you can see the female
leapee's face on the name badge Ben wears. Still, in case anyone's
interested:
https://forevertv.co.uk/paging-dr-song-gallery/
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From: guest (6 2 7 3)
, 10 months, post #158 |
If the episode "Raped" would've been remade today, I can't imagine
how much backlash it would've gotten on Twitter.
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From: Tuggy24g
, 10 months, post #159 |
Quantum leap has him in a female doctors body
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From: guest
, 10 months, post #160 |
I haven't watched the current episode of Quantum Leap yet, but it
appears that next week's episode is a sort of time loop episode, in
which Ben leaps into a number of different people to prevent the
same event. One of those people is a woman. Promo here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXeflmOAFyo
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