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From: guest (Mr Poll)
, 6 months, post #1 |
I say no.
TG is where there is a gender change.
CD is where there is crossdressing, no gender change.
In regards to this site, CD is not a transformation.
What say you?
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From: guest (BlueOctober)
, 6 months, post #2 |
If crossdressing is pulled off so well that the end effect is
spotless, and I can't tell if this person is nothing but what it
appears to be - it is a valid form of TG in my book.
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From: guest (Me)
, 6 months, post #3 |
Do not let crossdressing infect this site!
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From: cj
, 6 months, post #4 |
Crossdressing is NOT a transformation.
Though... some CD material MAY BE OF INTEREST to some.
CD won't be allowed in the database, but some is allowed here in
the message board. It all depends on the material and it's
perception of an actual TF (how close it seems to an actual TF).
Each post is judged on its own merit for being allowed or
rejected/removed.
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From: guest
, 6 months, post #5 |
They have a pretty big overlap, but are different genres overall.
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From: guest (Kara)
, 6 months, post #6 |
While I can understand not accepting CD on this site because it
would "ooen the floodgates" with overwhelming amounts of content, I
DO consider crossdressing - and any form of disguise - where the
results are so incredibly different that it's difficult to accept
that they are the same person
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From: guest (Kara)
, 6 months, post #7 |
To be a literal transformation. Just not an "impossibly magical"
one which is the sole focus of this site. .
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From: guest (Guy Noir)
, 6 months, post #8 |
TG is a change of gender, that is not crossdressing. There are
plenty of sites that cater to crossdressing. There is no need to
bring CD into an area discussing TG.
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From: guest
, 6 months, post #9 |
I enjoy crossdressing in stories, movies etc. when these are well
done. And broadly crossdressing can defined as part of TG. But I
don't think it should be considered as TG on this site.
Then again, I don't think body swap should be included either here
since it's not actual transformation. But that's a topic for
another time and thread.
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From: guest (Lol)
, 6 months, post #10 |
Is cat a bird?
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From: Nixon
, 6 months, post #11 |
what about quantum leap he is tech cross dressing even tho people
see him as a female so where would that go into play
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From: guest (Guy Noir)
, 6 months, post #12 |
It is crossdressing made for an audience who could not handle more,
and not actual TG or transformation.
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From: cj
, 6 months, post #13 |
"Is cat a bird?"
Irrelevant. We've already stated that CD and TF are not the same
thing.
"what about quantum leap..."
It is included in the database. It was originally supposed to be an
actual TF, IIRC. Also, the jumps are more like a swap (to other
people), than someone CD (which is what is actually happening).
This is one of those unique examples that is harder to define as
one or the other. The final thing with QL is that it was of
interest to much of the community here for its almost-a-swap
narrative.
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From: guest (Also Interested)
, 6 months, post #14 |
I think the overlap comes from the narrative and the real life
actors. So some body swaps or transformations involved the actors
crossdressing, due the mechanic of TF (e.g., they transformed into
each other or are perceived as the opposite sex).
Compare Dating the Enemy, The Hot Chick, and Love Carrot, as well
as your Quantum Leap-style swaps. Then there's also the rare "just
want to wear what I want" or "miss my old clothes" too.
CD for the sake of CD I dont think belongs on the database, but I
appreciate transformations and QL-style swaps that involve the
actors being CD.
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From: guest (Me)
, 6 months, post #15 |
My only interest is TG which is gender changes. Hate it when there
is a good TG conversation going and someone inserts crossdressing
into it.
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From: guest (Guy Noir)
, 6 months, post #16 |
Those involved in crossdressing interest cannot stand that CD is
not TG and TG does not want them, insist on being included, and get
angry when you say no, not here.
They are not the same. Entirely two different genres.
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From: guest (LPK)
, 6 months, post #17 |
They are a whiney bunch, always crying how crossdressing and gender
change are the same thing.
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From: cj
, 6 months, post #18 |
Reminder:
- Do not 'attack' other posters. You may attack an individual's
comments but not the individual.
- Be polite, courteous, and respectful. Please keep the conversations
civil.
Some of these posts are getting close to discourteous/disrespectful
name-calling attacks.
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From: D.A.W.
, 6 months, post #19 |
For those looking to exclude crossdressers from the TG category..
do remember that TG is short for transgender. As a transgender
person I could easily say any story that doesn't include some form
of social or medical transition isn't TG.
Just a thought...
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