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From: guest (penguinattack)
, 57 months, post #1 |
I’m just curious because I find it odd for a group of people who
claim to be open. I’ve shared conservative views before and I
consider myself fairly in the center of political beliefs. I share
some liberal and conservative views. I don’t think I’m really
hateful, but have gotten hate in the past for sharing conservative
views.
Does anyone else here have conservative views? Or is it just me?
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From: guest (penguinattacks)
, 57 months, post #2 |
The rest of the title of my question didn’t appear either. I
apologize for that.
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From: guest
, 57 months, post #3 |
It’s because the values of which liberals and conservatives differ
is measured differently amongst them. A conservative may not agree
with gay marriage and may choose not to associate with that
community. but to a liberal, opposing it is an affront to a persons
identity and associating with such a person could mean they are
tolerant of their ideology which could explain why you find them
less accepting. TG community would definitely be more left leaning
simply because being TG is fundamentally unconservative. Imagine
telling a conservative parent or friend about this website and what
their reaction would be. Some would not care for it but most would
definitely think there is something wrong with you or you have a
mental disability similar to a transgendered person
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From: guest
, 57 months, post #4 |
Easy, just look at the definition (non political) of both words and
you will see why.
Conservative noun:
1. a person who is averse to change and holds traditional values.
Liberal adjective
1. willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from
one's own; open to new ideas.
Lastly claiming to be open does not mean every opinion deserves the
same respect. Someone saying a gay person is mentally ill or that
interracial marriage is wrong (believed to be true not that long
ago) does not deserve my respect or time,.
Bringing politics into it, read the Republican party plank, it is
frightening in it's reactionary viewpoint.'Traditional family
values' my ass.
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From: guest (Guest)
, 57 months, post #5 |
If you're talking fiscal policies, means of healthcare, and
religious beliefs, we can agree to disagree and have a discussion.
If you're embracing racism, violence, gaslighting, and
authoritarianism as a means to those ends, then there's no point in
having that discussion.
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From: guest (Guest)
, 57 months, post #6 |
How many friends to you have of the opposite political belief? If
your answer is none, perhaps they're not the ones who lack
tolerance. It's easy to put down the other side for what YOU think
they believe. Try learning what they actually believe. Yes, there
are nutcases on both sides, but those aren't the majority on either
side.
May I suggest the "https://www.realclearpolitics.com" website? Half
the articles are written by Conservatives and half by Liberals. You
don't have to agree with any, but its important to know what they
think.
Check out CATO & Reason's website as well. You might find you're
more comfortable as a Libertarian. They really don't care how you
live your life as long as you don't try to force it on them or ask
them to pay for it.
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From: guest
, 57 months, post #7 |
Not a fan of conservative ideology because I'm queer, and not a fan
of conservative voices in a subgenre that happens to have a lot of
other queer people.
I'm open to a lot, not open to bigotry, and if there's one thing
I've learned growing up is that bigots hide mostly in conservative
spheres.
Not to say that there arent bigots in liberal and leftist spheres,
because they exist and they're problematic
But conservatives are always first in line to restrict queer rights
and that aint something I'm tolerant of
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From: ColoradoDog
, 57 months, post #8 |
Because they’re against pervs like us.
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From: guest
, 57 months, post #9 |
I tried to have friends with opposing political beliefs, but then
they turned out to hate queer people and foreigners so I dumped
their ass.
Maybe if conservative beliefs weren't so focused on restricting
rights and shitting on queer people I'd try to have more
conservative friends
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From: guest
, 57 months, post #10 |
Stupid question with obvious answer.
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From: guest
, 57 months, post #11 |
Nuanced views on anything political are no longer encouraged on
either side of the spectrum.
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From: guest (eh)
, 57 months, post #12 |
Classic paradox of tolerance scenario. Conservatives bring this up
to make the argument, “If you are so accepting, then why don’t you
accept my beliefs that dehumanize, restrict, or oppress others?”
The answer in short, "In order to maintain a tolerant society, the
society must be intolerant of intolerance."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
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From: greendoubleaught
, 57 months, post #13 |
There is fiscal conservativism, and then there is social
conservativism. Not all conservatives embrace both, but many do,
and it's important to define what you mean.
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From: guest (Tights)
, 57 months, post #14 |
"And the best at murder are those who preach against it, and the
best at hate are those who preach love" – Charles Bukowski, The
Genius Of The Crowd
In the last years I grew very cynical of people who claim all the
time about how much they are "open-minded", "in favor of diversity"
and "against hate" – it's not as if I don't believe that there are
people that sincerely are like this – but when a person seems to
ramble about "how much they are full of tolerance in their hearts"
all the time, it sounds fake and disingenuous and it sounds that
that person is doing that just to virtue-signal to their friends
and to be admired as an "open-minded thinker", to ultimately
satisfy their own ego. Being "open-minded and accept diversity" for
them is to accept people who already agree with 90% of the things
they say.
Anyway, the way I see good art is good art, and bad art is bad art.
I may disagree with the song "Imagine" from John Lennon, but it
would be a blatant lie of me saying that the song is bad, it's not.
It's one of the most beautiful songs ever made, with a message that
I personally disagree. And it's okay to disagree with the artist,
what's not ok, I believe, is to say an artist's art is bad because
you don't agree with their political view.
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From: guest (Tights)
, 57 months, post #15 |
>seems to rant about
Fixed.
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From: guest
, 57 months, post #16 |
It is ok actually to say someone is bad for their political views
hope that clears things up
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From: guest (guest)
, 57 months, post #17 |
smart teefers know ACAB baby and that's all there is to it
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From: guest (PAXAMERICANA)
, 56 months, post #18 |
Bunch of lefties
Worse than rome
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From: guest (kiyohime)
, 56 months, post #19 |
I don't think the problem on this site isn't politics. the problem
is people being anonymous and security. If we were to have a better
moderation system and more accountability this would work better. I
suggest a username and password being mandatory. that way it would
be harder for these political posts to get through. I've seen many
users stress this, we need better security for this site. It
wouldn't be perfect but it would be a start.
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From: Moose
, 56 months, post #20 |
The thing was, when i first started coming here the sote had really
great moderation, CJ was almost here everyday watching every single
post and there were like 6 more people helping him. But as the
years went, the less we saw of him, and right now the only active
mod thats a regular is hskmn
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