Angel episode Hole in the World ( 2 parts)|
Very Lovecraftain plot. The old gods are demons that are millions of years old & obvious predate man are imprisoned. One escapes and possesses 'Fred' a brilliant, very likeable young woman working for Angel & a close friend. Its not clear if the god or demon has sex but seems to act female, when in ...more|
, 170 months, post #1 |
Haven't seen this but wondering what season is it in. Thanks a lot!|
, 170 months, post #2 |
It's in the final 5th season of Angel.It's very sad and tragic what
happens to Fred though.|
From: guest (Glammazon)
, 166 months, post #3 |
How can this be placed in this category when Illyria's sex in her
native form is a complete mystery - at least, to me?|
, 166 months, post #4 |
Not entirely sure of this but I'm pretty sure it is specified that
the demon was male in a later episode by Wesley.|
, 166 months, post #5 |
I think the demon was always female, not too sure though.|
From: guest (Glammazon)
, 156 months, post #6 |
Illyria herself later says that she lived seven lives at one and
was a god to a god, but she makes no allusion to her former sex.|
, 156 months, post #7 |
Just one to think about here... but doesn't the word "God" have a
male connection to it... as the word "Goddess" was create to have a
- Mako -
From: guest (as)
, 156 months, post #8 |
This show really turned me on! I've watched many of 'female to
female' transformation scenes noted in here, but this is really
something. Amy Ackers was cute and lively in "Fred" and was cold
and kinda distant in "Illyria". I recommend all of you to see this
From: guest (InKpott)
, 156 months, post #9 |
I liked how the story went , having to do with Wolfram , with how '
bureacratic- shipping ' allowed the thing Illyria was in to arrive
. How Gunn played the price for everything . And Wesley's reaction
to uncovering his connection to these events and the guilt Gunn
felt himself( he knew he was ' pimped ', used) and his reactions
over time .|
Most of all , poor Fred , and her death or should I say ,
"assimilation " into Illyria , was shocking and creatively directed
She grew envious of Fred , too , wanting Wesley to want her as Fred
, not as the demi-godling she had been . Again , another point that
turned my view of her character on . That she , inspite of her
previous statis , was now a carnal-near leveled , power-reduced
being , introduced newly , to frailties that only humans can relate
to ( Wesley was nescessary to her , but she didn't want to admit it
, which led to her wanting him).
Illyria was one of the reasons why I was pissed when the WB
canceled Angel . I really wanted to see what Joss had planned for
her , since Wesley was no longer around to instruct her thru a
lower existence . . . .
(He died just like Illyonca on buffy did over the course of
fighting . )
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