From: guest (Estranhosidade)
, 2 months, post #1 |
So, first of all, I need to make it clear that I don't think a
gender inclusive world is a bad thing, not at all, I think it's
very good that we live in a world that more and more people accept
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With that out of the way... I can't help but think that this
inclusiveness ends up making body swap stories, more precisely body
swap stories involving the male-to-female thematic, less
"interesting". Especially if such stories are taking place
At least to me, one of the most appealing factors of a body swap
stories was and is the idea of someone being forced to be what they
are not. Of course, this factor happens in all body swap stories –
including male-to-male and female-to-female – but those stories, in
which the person switch bodies with someone of their own gender,
they don't have such a "forbidden fruit" aspect.
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And by that I mean: A man who switched bodies with another man can
still wear men's clothes, he can even wear the same clothing style
that he used to wear. He can still act all tough and manly and in
general, he can still date women and so on...
But, nowadays society become more and more accepting of... let's
say... different gender identities. People, especially in Europe
and Western countries, accept more the idea of gender dysphoria,
and don't see trans people as freakies, as weirdos.
So if you wake up in a woman's body... the whole "you are trapped"
thing seems less challenging today, and by consequence seems a
little less bit interesting, from a storytelling point of view.
If this happened nowadays... you wouldn't be so "trapped", or not
as trapped as you were in the 80s or 70s. You could undergo through
hormonal therapy and sex reassignment surgery and be able to go on
living as a man or as a woman...
Another thing worth highlight is how technological evolution is
allowing, and will be allowing, more and more people to change
their bodies and appearance – I think it's a matter of time until
trans women are able to get pregnant. I mean, a couple years ago
they were talking about these Chinese scientists wanting to perform
a head transplant.
So it's not completely unthinkable to wonder that still in our
lifetime we will see a "whole body transplant". Let alone the
possibility of full immersive VR in which you are able to put a
headset and suddenly you become anybody you want, and any physical
form you wish.
So I think that these two factors: social acceptance as well as new
futuristic technologies (body transplants, VR, etc...) make the
body swap stories less interesting, basically, because there is the
possibility of people, thanks to this acceptance and technologies
to just change their new bodies or, just flat-out get rid of them.
P.S: Sorry for my shitty English.
From: guest (Estranhosidade)
, 2 months, post #2 |
Ops, the title got cut:|
Does our gender inclusive world as well as new technologies make
MTF body swap stories less interesting*
From: guest (Passing Through)
, 2 months, post #3 |
I think you underestimate the challenges someone faces as gender
dysphoric in today’s world.|
That said, a good number of MTF stories involve a bit of mental
change, ie the swapee eventually finds themselves comfortable in
their new sex/gender, possibly with their sexual orientation
altered. And while we’ve still to achieve true gender equality in
our world, things are definitely easier for women now than even
thirty years ago. I enjoy historical transformation stories for
that very reason— the challenges for the protagonist are greater
, 2 months, post #4 |
New technologies may one day make body swaps possible, does body
swap fiction loose out when that happens?|
Maybe a little, in the way Pre 1969 Sci Fi could do anything,
humans with goldfish bowls on there heads on the moon, humans
surviving in space with a breathing mask on etc. nowadays such Sci
Fi looks really silly as we know what is possible and what space is
really like. Yet there are still Sci Fi shoes.
I’d say “less interesting” is wrong. Less creative maybe, but
change is good. Maybe in a future where people are swapping bodies
for fun every weekend old body swap films and stories will look as
silly as old Sci Fi shows, but good story tellers will still find
ways to make interesting stories.
In my opinion.
Also we will never know what the “soul” is, so debated over our
bodies and souls will continue forever.
From: guest (Estranhosidade)
, 2 months, post #5 |
I always thought about how the changes in real life affect the
stories that we tell in fiction, as well as vice-versa – and here
I'm talking in a general manner. Not especially about this case.|
Many times such changes, whether they are social or technological
(or both), they end up closing a given story path. And by that I
mean, for example:
Those suspense stories like "There is a killer on the loose and we
are alone here in our woods cabin" don't work as much, or as
easily, nowadays, since smartphone as well as service coverage area
are so widespread. A person being haunted by a serial murder could
easily call for help.
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