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From: guest (Tights)
, 64 months, post #1 |
So... it's no secret that Japan is weird, or at least "peculiar" –
if you wanna be polite. It's a wildcard sort of place. You have the
octopus porn and the worn panties vending machines and that penis
festival and all that kind of stuff.
But one of the peculiarities, and that people usually don't talk
about, and that caught my attention these days while I was looking
a list of body swap movies and series is that... Japan seems to
have an unusual interested on body swap in comparison with other
countries of the world.
Especially because, unlike US or Canada, many of the content wasn't
broadcasted outside Japan, so it's not like they were producing
this with the hope of selling the broadcast rights oversees.
And maybe this is just my impression, but hear me out:
We see body swap on anime movies, such as "Kimi no na wa" (Your
Name) from 2016, we see these in mangas, such as "Shishunki Bitter
Change"(2012-), we see these in doramas, such as "Papa to Musume no
Nanokakan" (2007). We even see this on really obscure TV shows and
movies, such as "Ore ga aitsu de aitsu ga ore de" (2002), "Papa ga
watashi de Watashi ga papa de" (1989) and "Henshin! Ponpoko-dama"
from 1973!
Click to show spoiler
yrg nybar gur WNIf, yrg nybar gur WNIF
1973, for god sake! So, it's not like just a few stories here and
there, it's pretty recurring theme in japan popular culture. And I
was cracking my head trying to know why is that?
And, before I move on, I think it's important to highlight that
many fetiches... it's not like they are born in a bubble outside
society, there's a whole feedback loop, there's whole bunch being
influenced by society going on. Even if we look up really weird
things, such as, again, octopus porn. We see this I think "this new
trending is super weird", but this is not a new trending, this
shitty is fucking old!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s_Wife
This painting is 200 years old! And a woman is being fucked up by a
two octopuses on it! So many things seems to be embedded in that
culture mindset.
But, going back to the body swap thing... I was googling around and
I found out this really old japanese story "Torikaebaya
Monogatari", it's like old as hell, like thousands years old. It's
a tale involving, not body swap per se, but it seems to involve a
brother and a sister switching roles, and engaging in crossdressing
and so and so forth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torikaebaya_Monogatari
So I think the japanese interest on body swap might exist because
of this tale, what you guys think about it?
P.S: Sorry for any grammar mistake.
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From: guest
, 64 months, post #2 |
They also seems to have something for skinsuit too
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From: guest
, 64 months, post #3 |
Oh don't forget they have many female possession thing too
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From: guest
, 64 months, post #4 |
Not only Japan...China has also some fetish for body swaps. And
some other asian countries. Maybe it's something new for them or
maybe it is related to some cultural traits.
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From: Valkan
, 64 months, post #5 |
But it's not new to them. OP discussed how it has a history of body
swap media.
So it comes down to a cultural thing. Which begs the question, what
specifically
about Japan, China, or other East Asian cultures make gender
transformation media (whether that is body swap, skinsuits, or
possessions) more widely acceptable than it does in Western
culture.
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From: guest (Tights)
, 64 months, post #6 |
All those places, especially Japan and China, throughout a major
part of their story stayed away from the rest of the world, kept
themselves outside global politics, not for nothing you had "the
great wall of china", this probably lead to changes regarding how
those societies perceive gender and gender roles, as well as
sexuality as a whole. I mean there are kinks and fetishes that it
seems to only exist in japan.
Europe shaped the rest of the world, whether we are talking about
America or Australia - but it didn't shape (as much) these asian
countries, so I think these places provides an interesting glimpse
about what a place without european influence would look like.
Anyway, I know that this is not an answer to your question though,
it's like saying that A is this way because of B 😂
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From: guest (Tanya)
, 64 months, post #7 |
I think part of it is that the United States is just not as open
sexually as other parts of the world. It's a country based on the
American Dream, be a husband and wife have kids, own a house, work
your job etc. Anything that deviates from that people have a hard
time accepting, like something is wrong with that person, it's
improved a little over time but not as much as other countries.
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From: theobserver
, 64 months, post #8 |
the solution is to subscribe to the cignal using a vpn and record
everything on the platform
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From: theobserver
, 64 months, post #9 |
Excuse me i was wrong
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From: guest
, 64 months, post #10 |
I think the believe in reincarnation is a factor.
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From: guest (Luv_To_Switch_Bods)
, 64 months, post #11 |
That is interesting guest. Do you think that men who think
about swapping bodies with women were women in their
past life?
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From: guest
, 64 months, post #12 |
Yeah I wonder this a lot too. If I could speak Japanese and/or
Chinese, there would be no shortage of content. There's so few
stuff in the west comparatively
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From: guest (Laika)
, 64 months, post #13 |
In East Asia culture, their culture have a root from Confucius.
People determined and have the roles (king-people, male-female,
etc. you can find about hierarchy relations in Confucius Philosophy
)that they must follow for harmony in social community (in
Confucius harmony is the most important thing that make communities
get peace) Japan receive Confucius and chinese philosophy in Heian
period. Japan strongly believe in the roles of harmony and you
still can see this in japan social nowadays.
In my opinion the obviously roles make people feel tense and have a
question in their roles and the others.As we know male and female
in Asian culture have a long renge in social equality but in some
point of their roles they have some an advantage in their position
in social. I think from this point they absorb in about switching
the roles and became the one of fantasy and some kind of fetish.
I'm an Asian and sorry for my bad english ^^"
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From: guest (Tights)
, 64 months, post #14 |
Your english is fine. That's a pretty interesting insight about
asia culture!
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From: guest (Tights)
, 40 months, post #15 |
Sorta reliving this thread again, lately I have been reading a lot
of Japanese mangas, and it's somewhat amazing how much this
thematic constantly pops up in it, there's even a category "gender
blender" for it. Not only about body swap itself, but also of men
just being transformed and waking up as a woman or possessing a
female body and all that kind of stuff.
https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/tags/body-swapping?sort=recent&order=desc
https://mangadex.org/genre/62/genderswap/0/2/
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From: guest (Tights)
, 19 months, post #16 |
Sorta reliving this thread again.. again. I ended up bumping with
this japanese comic from 1905, although it has english subtitle, it
seems to be from a Tokyo magazine, showing a grandson and his
grandfather switching bodies:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220920053804/https://nitter.namazso.eu/totetatta/status/1502594345874358274
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