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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #1 |
I made up my mind. I'm going to commission a full blown TF sequence
of Rule 63 Bowser. There's been A METRIC TON of artwork on this
lovable (and quite fetching on the eye) character. However as
almost none of it has been a proper TF Sequence...and even ones
that attempt it are little better than chicken-scratch doodles. I
want a real TF sequence done by an excellent artist. And I'm
willing to put my money where my mouth is to boot!
So what do I need from the community? Some advice on how to look
for standard pricing on the market. Also who's a good artist who'll
not cheat me, or make me wait for months...or kink shame. Yeah,
that'd be nice to know.
So, does anyone have any advice and pointers? This'll be my first
time commissioning work in the art community. What should I look
out for?
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From: guest
, 67 months, post #2 |
Maybe you should look on deviantart for artists who already do that
kind of stuff.
They'll probably charge you, like, U$100 for it.
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #3 |
Yeah I'm already familiar with a few artists from there. I'm asking
around. You think $100 is realistically my ballpark price?
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From: guest
, 67 months, post #4 |
$100 could get you a multi-panel page or two, depending. If you
just want 3-4 steps, it’s certainly doable at that price range. If
you want really good, maybe double that. (This is of course
excluding the REALLY good, pro-level artists who can be like 125+
for a single image)
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #5 |
We're talking those prices in terms of lineart, color, or 3D
rendering?
To give you a better idea of what I'm looking for, it will be a 6-8
panel TF sequence. Probably my most cost-effective option would be
white-black (aka lineart). So will that really cost me $200+?
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #6 |
I've asked six artists on DA and struck out six times. Seems like
artists are busy during the upcoming holiday seasons and aren't
available. I'm quickly running out of artists whom I like and
follow.
Anyone know of any good artists who're open to commissions now and
are "niche friendly" to our shared common interest? :)
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From: guest (Shiftingfun)
, 67 months, post #7 |
I do quite a bit of TF stuff on my DA and is always free for
commissions :3
https://www.deviantart.com/shiftingfun
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #8 |
Hi ShiftingFun,
Looked at your profile. You're pretty good artist. And I see you've
already done a bit of our leading lady in question... :)
So how do I contact you in private to hash out the details? Talking
money on such a public forum is a bit uncouth.
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #9 |
Deal with Shifting fell through. Any other takers?
I'm really starting to think this is never going to happen... -_-
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From: Valkan
, 67 months, post #10 |
One option would be to wait out for the holiday season to end then
hit up the first deviant artists you reached out to earlier. They'd
be less busy then. Maybe save up more money during that time to get
the sequence in color rather than black and white.
Sucks you can't get it done now but don't be discouraged!
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #11 |
Actually, I got plenty of "funds." However, I keep myself on the
same budget each month to make sure I don't "overspend." The rare
exception is when I find an artist who's skilled enough to
reproduce something like the Mona Lisa (ok a bit of an
exaggeration, but mega skilled artists ARE totally worth it!)
I love to haggle as I am a bargain shopper. Used to be in
Marketing. Manager asked us to be penny pinchers when planning out
a client's campaign...been one ever since, never looked back. I
literally start crying blood if I think I overspent something on an
item, even with regular groceries! XD
I will admit I picked a bad time of the year to bargain shop.
Still, I'd like to get something done now. Any new fresh talent out
there, willing to haggle?
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #12 |
Speaking of an ideal Mega Skilled artist. There's this legend I
know who's an amazing TF artist, and I'm even on friendly terms
with him. He goes by the name of Seonidas. Here's where you can
find some of his artwork:
https://www.deviantart.com/seonidas
https://www.patreon.com/Seonidas/overview
Anyways for some reason, he just won't reply to my commission
requests. What makes this even more puzzling, is that he's in a
serious money crunch situation right now and could use support from
you lovely folks.
Yes, I know I shouldn't be advertising on here...but 1) he's a TF
artist 2) He's an amazing artist 3) I don't get any money from him
for doing this, I'm just a patron on his patreon 4) If you guys hit
him up about this Bowsette sequence, he may just end up doing
it...and we'll all be happy, cause I promise to share it with the
world! ;)
What do you say people?! Please take a look at what he has to
offer. And if you like please support him by sharing, liking, and
patreon...and most importantly of all tell him to take on this
bowsette commission! :D
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From: guest (ndc)
, 67 months, post #13 |
Guest01, the reason he's not responding is because artists behave
like dodgy, fickle, womanly toffs who do nothing for you unless you
practically beg them. I've been through this many times when
getting commissions.
No matter how thin their workload is or how unpopular they are,
they act like they're a celebrity being asked for an autograph.
Don't give him any money on Patreon or anywhere until he at least
responds to your request.
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #14 |
I'm never going to beg anyone for anything. Not now, not ever.
I think you misconstrue the situation. English isn't his native
language. And generally, my requests are buried in a mountain of
text. I just end up chatting with him about anything, despite his
broken English. He's a pretty chill dude.
So he may not even register that I just asked him for a commission.
P.S.: I can totally relate though. I know a couple artists who
string me along...then when I try to place an expectation of
deliverables (aka a deadline) they just deadpan and end the
conversation. They want my money, but not any responsibility? Heck
no!
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From: guest (TheStrangeOne2380)
, 67 months, post #15 |
ndc & Guest01:
Many, many, MANY artists don't take commissions as a primary income
- it simply isn't consistent enough to make that feasible.
Accepting a commission means that they have to take time out of
their lives outside of whatever real-life work they're doing in
order to complete your commission, so it's typically on the client
to make it worth their time. If they stop responding to you or
refuse to work on your terms, consider the following:
1) Your deadline (if you're requesting one) doesn't work for them.
2) Your budget doesn't work for them
3) Your attitude doesn't work for them
TL:DR - Any time you're reaching out for any service, keep in mind
three things:
Price, Quality, Speed - you get to pick two.
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #16 |
- shrugs* I freely admitted earlier I am a bargain shopper. That's
not going to change. I'll find someone who'll be willing to do
things my way. Make no mistake though, I won't cheat anyone. I
always operate on the policy half up front, half after the work is
done. Anyways, all this is the beauty of the free market.
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #17 |
Also StrangeOne, I just love how you're indirectly insinuating that
I've got a bad attitude towards artists when I'm trying to actively
promote an artist on this platform.
My communication with artists have always been civil. I ask them to
politely confirm if they decline my offer if they haven't
immediately responded and they always do (to keep to professional
decorum). So before you make assumptions on my character, ask what
I'm talking about. Thank you.
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From: guest (ndc)
, 67 months, post #18 |
I have never lowballed an artist I've bought something for, and
always am patient. IMO, they act like divas all the time, they act
like they have no time to communicate with people. It's a general
frustration I have with society, but commission artists exemplify
it in my experience. There are many who don't even finish what they
promise to do, or finish it after a half-year or longer. If they
were painting still lifes I'd understand, but not cartoon artists
with 100 deviantart watchers.
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #19 |
I can't speak for your experience ndc, but to each his or her own.
That's the beauty of the free market. None of us have to agree, or
live under one consensus. Though of course, there are social
expectations and laws to abide by.
There is more than one way to live and conduct business... I've
already stated plenty how I deal and approach business with
artists.
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From: guest (Guest01)
, 67 months, post #20 |
Back on a more productive track for this thread.
ShiftingFun has started working on this bowsette commission again.
We've finally agreed to acceptable terms. I cannot give you a solid
ETA for the completion of the entire project, but I've already seen
some sketches of the sequence and given my input. At least the
first half of the sequence should be available within the next
month. I am debating where to post the content as this will def be
more of NSFW TF sequence. It will likely never public feature hard
rated X material, but definitely a strong rated R. Any suggestions?
Regardless just wanted to share some good news with you folks.
Perhaps this paints me in a better light to other artists floating
about here in our community? I have more ideas for TF sequences.
Please reach out to me, and I'm sure we can agree terms.
Now I think people can begin to see why I'm bargain shopping...I
plan to solicit for a lot of commissions. This hobby of mine is no
joke on the wallet. I have to be frugal to get the most
cost-effective solution.
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