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My flesh is cool comic

From: guest (George) , 69 months, post #1

Comic about an assassin with true ability to posses people featuring mtf and my, and links?

From: guest (Guest) , 69 months, post #2

What is the name of the comic?

From: guest , 69 months, post #3

The name of the comic is My Flesh is Cool
And a quick google search shows no site featuring the comics to be read.
Someone should buy the 4 issues and scan them for archival purposes

From: guest (TLo) , 69 months, post #4

I do have some scans, if you wanna send me a message on DeviantArt, I'd be more than happy to share them with you! :D

https://www.deviantart.com/bostonbrand1

From: guest (StevieJer) , 69 months, post #5

Hey, it would be amazing if you can share them with me. Im not very familiar with DevaintArt, so i've sended you a message by the 'Send a note' button on the top right. I hope that is okay :)

From: guest (Tlo) , 69 months, post #6

@StevieJer, I've sent you it in two batches. Hope it sent alright. If not, I'll resend them, better. Let me know if everything worked out, cheers.

From: guest (StevieJer) , 69 months, post #7

@Tlo

Thanks, I will let u know!!

From: Alias , 69 months, post #8

I have the series, it wasn't all that good, mediocre B&W artwork and the plot was kind of all over the place.

Also, guest in post #3, why don't you buy them instead of being a leech? You can buy each of the 3 issues on https://www.comcav.net/ for like $5 each.

From: guest , 69 months, post #9

I was just stating the fact that the comic can be purchased too. Chill Alias

From: guest (Gypsy) , 69 months, post #10

It annoys me to no end when people "Share" books, or music, or movies, with everyone.

Sure, big movie studios can afford to lose 30,000 views of a movie.

A writer that took years to write a novel, you are stealing from him, you are stealing money from his pocket

would it be okay if you went to work for a pay period and found out that all your fellow employees got to share your paycheck and you got nothing? Is that okay?

Support the work that is done by paying the price of the item you want to read, watch, or listen to, because people worked on it and if you find it entertaining then maybe you should show your appreciation for it by paying them

sorry for distracting from the thread, it's just an annoyance to me and I feel that most of you all probably feel the same way. I know the rules of this site reflect that view point

From: guest (Shepherd) , 69 months, post #11

meh. I think if people are generally willing to pay for entertainment they do so, if not they'll accept it free or not at all. Obviously price of entertainment (and everything else) is subjective, a balance between the value the creator puts on the product and the value a consumer is willing to pay.

I certainly didn't spend as much on entertainment before streaming services like Netflix/Spotify/Steam came along with more "reasonable" prices. Prior to that, games in particular were being priced upwards of $70, there was no way I was ever paying that.

IMHO the whole anti-piracy thing is overblown, I don't believe any individual or organization is really losing any serious money on IP piracy. The stats are inflated by the companies that have made a multi-million industry out of selling digital rights management solutions to content providers. Just my two cents. annnnd back to the thread...

From: guest (Gypsy) , 69 months, post #12

I know a writer that has put out two books, he works a full time job and writes on the side

He found a web site that had his books posted for free. His books had been downloaded from that site 100,000+ times. He told me, "if I had that money, that $2/book, I could write full time and be with my family more."

Pirates steal time when they steal money

sure Marvel and the associated studios don't notice a 100k downloads of their movies, but the guy that is trying to save money to put his kids through college, trying to make a better life is being robbed.

Those sites that post books, that post videos, those places need to be targetted and taken down and the operators need to see jail time. I know that is not going to happen but it needs to happen.

From: guest (AltF4) , 69 months, post #13

@Gypsy I'll be the devil's advocate and ask you this, of those 100k people that have downloaded it, how many would have bought it?

The "patreon" business model in these indie cases is a much better fit than just charging upfront, IMHO. Those who appreciate your work would pay for bonus content (early access, requests, etc...) while you publish the core of your work for free. You get a steady stream of cash while getting more visibility.

From: guest (Gypsy) , 69 months, post #14

I asked him the same question, how many would have bought it, and he said that he thought probably 70% which would have been far more then enough to make him a full time writer.

I asked if 40% would have done it, and he said that it would have made a great difference in his life, his children's lives, and his wife's.

Most writers that publish through Amazon are making about 35% of cover price. Not much considering how much time it takes to write a book.

So, I am looking for an artist for my book. Is that what I should tell the artist? I won't pay because it will get you more visibility?

From: rugal , 69 months, post #15

70% is being awfully generous I think. At the same time, how many people who pirated his work then went on to buy it? You'd also have to factor in stuff that's completely subjective i.e. if he lost sales maybe the people who pirated didn't find the material interesting enough to then throw money at him for more stuff. What was the content of his books? It might be that they're simply the types of books that some people might not want on their purchase history. Maybe some of those people would like to read but don't have the extra income to spend on books (and trust me, you can argue that it's only a few bucks but I've lived in plenty of situations where a few bucks was my dinner for the night and I've been down to my last $20 by payday).

There's a whole litany of reasons.

The fact is that, in my opinion and based on everything I've seen, the entire "piracy hurts everyone" argument bunk. There's been plenty of studies about the effects of piracy that are counter to the narrative. Album sales have decreased with music but that's because purchasing methods have moved away from albums to singles and a la carte purchasing of songs; at the same time with the rise of piracy artists have seen an increase in ticket sales for concerts and tours and some artists like Ed Sheeran directly attribute their rise to stardom to piracy.

Likewise there's the EU study that the EU sat on and hid for a few years because it was commissioned to show the negative effect piracy had on video game sales and in fact came away with the opposite conclusion: that it helped. Just to use an anecdotal example, on 4chan's /co/ board a few years back someone storytimed (i.e. posted page by page) an indie comic called Underground that the board enjoyed. The book's artist came in and said he was glad people liked the book and said, in a nice way, that it's cool they're spreading awareness of the book and if they like it to please buy a copy of it too. Sales spiked for the book and the artist earned a lot of loyalty from /co/ for being a cool guy which led to better than expected sales on his next comic -- Superior Foes of Spider-Man -- which led to get getting extended past it's original 12 issues.

There's also the success of various streaming services and binge watching which in part likely comes from torrenting shows and such because people want things now, especially nowadays. Crunchyroll, the largest anime streaming site, started as a piracy site before companies saw a benefit in the streaming model, partnering with them and them going legit. Look also at the success of "pay what you want" models for things like albums.

That's not to say that piracy is perfect and that everyone is just clamoring to buy everything. It's not a guarantee of course that piracy will always lead to an increase in sales but at the same time the world, especially of content delivery, is an entirely different place than it was even 5 years ago, much less 15 or 20 when all of the old anti-piracy arguments were first popping up. I understand the effect that every pirate is a lost sale and wanting the maximum amount of money you'd feel you'd have gotten.

At the same time, however, content creators need to realize that things have indeed changed which means exploring new ways to generate revenue and of getting your product out there. Piracy can be just as much of a tool if you know how to use it to your advantage. Want people to get into your work? Maybe try offering an older work for free so people can get an idea of what you're about which then makes it easier to decide if that's something they want to support going forward. The Pateron model (as AltF4 mentioned) is another option to try. Things are changing rapidly in regards to how content is delivered and how people consume that content which is going to require people to think outside of the box to generate revenue with their works and not just clinging on to old methods.

From: guest (Gypsy) , 69 months, post #16

rugal, can you send me 10% of your paycheck?

consider it piracy, you don't seem to mind

I have lived where $20 is a lot of money, you know what I didn't do? I didn't read. I didn't do anything but work. I got out of that position. I never settled into a life where I was so stressed that I could not afford $3 for anything, and if I felt stressed. I did not buy it, I put it on a list and bought it later.

Piracy might not be a big deal to the big studios or you, but it is to the small writers, the indy movie makers, movie makers like James who keep us entertained...

Why not ask James how he feels about someone pirating his stuff?

Seriously, do you run a piracy site? Is that why you wrote so much on it because you would lose advertisers or whatever? Feel like I might be pirating from you by speaking up against it? Ironic isn't it?

Seriously, if Piracy is no big deal then why does this site and others like it have rules against it?

From: rugal , 69 months, post #17

And I'm not meaning to be condescending or dismissive of any concerns so apologies if it comes off like that. Over the last couple of months though the idea of how works are distributed and whatnot is something I've been giving a lot of thought to. There's stuff I want to do but to me in order to do it would require having to think of a proper way to distribute it that works in the context of the times we're now living in (i.e. all digital, binge culture leading to people wanting things now, etc.), much as I might prefer say having physical copies of books, games or comics.

Seeing the way comics are largely still distributed is something that's started giving me fits though in how completely outdated it is and how it keeps people away from the product.

From: rugal , 69 months, post #18

I actually would like to see James to chime in because I think he'd definitely offer an interesting perspective. He has movies he's sold physically (and digitally? I can't remember if Hit Girl and Identity Theft were ever digital) but at the same time he's built up his name via free content on Youtube. That, of course, has its own ways of making money (i.e. monetization, much as Youtube might be screwing with that nowadays) but James' videos like the Wand of Change, Magic Remote, Frenemies and whatnot are what built him an audience that he was then, hopefully, able to translate into sales for his bigger projects.

In that sense he can be considered something of an early adopter of the mindset I mentioned of taking advantage of emerging ways to deliver content and thinking outside of the box as he started this when the concept of dedicated Youtube content was incredibly new.

From: guest (Gypsy) , 69 months, post #19

rudal
I am not pissed at you, I am just annoyed at the "sharing" thing that is going on

like I have said, I have a book coming out. I know authors and I see how they are being pirated and I think about how hard and long I have worked on these books and I am thinking- "this sells and it will change my life."

"It doesn't sell and I am still a published author"

"but it sells and 30k copies go off to pirates that is 30k of my money. I can be okay with that if it sells 300k copies. It's money I don't have now and someone liked it enough to steal it, still I worked on that, I sacrificed time with my family for that. How can they justify taking that from me."

"Still, if its crap and it doesn't sell... what am I out?"

can I be okay with the theft? I will have to be, because thieves don't pay for shit, they just take and take until they are caught, then they beg and cry and plead innocence and blah, blah, blah

pay for what you want, be honest in life, seriously

when it comes to donating to sites that make content you like, do you do it? Do you support your favorite webcomic?

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