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From: guest (123456)
, 18 months, post #81 |
find 1 article where "cis" (ie normal, regular, straight) is the
term used to describe a group in a positive light ...no word is
needed for the normal, just needed to describe abnormalities or
deviations from the norm
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From: Alias
, 18 months, post #82 |
It's kind of hilarious that a group that loves to pigeon-hole
people with labels like 'trans' and 'SJW' completely lose their
minds when someone decides to label them.
Also, it's funny that you assume 'cis' implies normal, it only says
that you are satisfied with the gender you were born with. Who are
you to decide what normal is?
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From: guest (Fed Up)
, 18 months, post #83 |
"It's kind of hilarious that a group that loves to pigeon-hole
people with labels like 'trans'"
.............
Still waiting for an explanation of why the term "cis", is needed?
Have not read one good explanation yet.
For people who say they are proud to be "trans", there sure seems
to be a lot of trying to get away from that term. One of those ways
being to label non-trans as "cis".
SJW's are what they labeled themselves.
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From: guest (Susan)
, 18 months, post #84 |
Suppose we're talking about restrooms. In the men's restroom are
men. Some are trans-men and the others are...? men? No... they're
cis-men. Because the first division divides people into men and
women and trans-men ( at least at some point ) are clearly NOT
women. So, you need names for the (a) and (b) type of men.
Otherwise your rest rooms are going to be labelled "men and
transmen" and "women and transwomen"? That makes no sesne.
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From: guest (BarackObrahma)
, 18 months, post #85 |
Well... I think that in that case, it must be better if we all
shared the same bathroom. In my humble house there are no women's
or men's bathroom. Just bathroom. If you are there, unoccupied,
serve yourself. Anyone can poop at my bathroom, if they flush
afterwards and keep it clean.
Sometimes I amaze myself that the majority of the houses follow the
same rule (well, some of you might not let others poop at your
sacred places of interior contemplation and bowel movements, BUT
YOU ARE JUST AN EXCEPTION! A SELFISH ONE!), but when it come to
public places, we have to divide people in genders, like they
weren't the same people who share an unissex bathroom at home.
Humans, you are a funny thing to observe.
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From: guest (Bud)
, 18 months, post #86 |
Why not get rid of public restrooms altogether and just have
outhouses?
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From: Air Gear
, 18 months, post #87 |
Public health issue. More likely to spread gastrointestinal
illnesses that way.
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From: DAW
, 18 months, post #88 |
Can we just stop arguing already? Quite frankly over the course of
the last fourteen years I have seen this argument dozens of times
and it never goes anywhere.
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From: guest
, 18 months, post #89 |
@bud
I sure hope for better... maybe one day we don't need to take
energy from dead beings (animals, plants and so on), taking it by
means of a renewable non-live mean. Or something like those
stillsuits from Duna.
@DAW
Not yet, just a little more, can we?
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From: guest (Sally)
, 18 months, post #90 |
Easy enough to not read this thread if you don't like it.
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From: guest
, 18 months, post #91 |
LOL... I guess it DID run out of steam?
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From: guest (123)
, 18 months, post #92 |
one of the majority which is how a norm is determined...get a grip,
if you are not straight you are not normal, not bad, but not normal
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From: guest (123)
, 18 months, post #93 |
also a man is a regular man, a trans man is a transgendered man,
again no need for cis as "man" covers it seeing as though a trans
man is something different from an actual man, it just is, it is
very simple
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From: guest
, 18 months, post #94 |
Ah... just needed a nudge to get the authorities fired up again and
using words like "normal" and "regular"... LOL... amazing how
little it takes.
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From: Alias
, 18 months, post #95 |
Are we seriously going to say the majority rules?
Because the majority of Americans support gay marriage, gays in the
military, comprehensive background checks for firearms and the
majority of Americans voted for Clinton.
So how's that 'majority rules' argument working out now?
(Not trying to make this a political discussion, just pointing out
that having a majority means nothing.)
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From: guest (Kara)
, 18 months, post #96 |
I don't see anything wrong with the majority supporting ANY of
those things (maybe Clinton).
While the majority may not always be objectively correct, they are
representative of prevailing social policy and attitude.
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From: guest (Kara)
, 18 months, post #97 |
In most cases, the majority DOES rule. If you want change for those
in the minority, you have to influence and change the minds of the
majority. That is how you effect lasting and meaningful change.
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From: guest (Fed Up)
, 18 months, post #98 |
(Not trying to make this a political discussion, just pointing out
that having a majority means nothing.)
.................
Then do not post political beliefs or points that others could
argue against as not being true.
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From: guest
, 18 months, post #99 |
Well language IS pretty much determined by the majority. Whatever
the majority of the people do and say becomes the definition of a
word -- the dictionary eventually reflects that. I still remember
when "ain't" wasn't in the dictionary and most of us probably
remember before "google" was a verb. So, we'll see if, in 5 years
or so, who wins this argument according to society and the
dictionary.
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From: Alias
, 18 months, post #100 |
Well if that's the criteria, then cisgendered is in the dictionary
and has been in use for over 20 years.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cisgender
Cis actually has a much older history, dating back over a hundred
years. So I guess they win? Yay?
Also, to Fed Up's comment: At no point did I post political
beliefs, just facts. You can say you don't like them, but that
doesn't change them.
And as for the SJW thing, if you're against them, does that make
you a Social Injustice Warrior? Fighting to promote social
injustice? Isn't that kind of a horrible thing to be?
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