From: guest (Fed Up)
, 39 months, post #221 |
“Political correctness [Transmafia is America's newest form of
intolerance, and fascism. It is especially pernicious because it
comes disguised as tolerance. It presents itself as fairness, yet
attempts to restrict and control people's language with strict
codes and rigid rules."
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From: guest (wololo1312)
, 39 months, post #222 |
lol no one cares get a hobby
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From: D.A.W.
, 39 months, post #223 |
Cis people.
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From: D.A.W.
, 39 months, post #224 |
Cis literally means not-trans. It's not offensive. Never has been,
never will be.
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From: guest (Fed Up)
, 39 months, post #225 |
"D.A.W." - Who are you to label someone, then demand they not be
offended by it?
Why not just say woman and trans-woman? Why the need to label a
born woman or man as 'Cis"?
No one has yet to give a good answer. Because there is not one.
.....And while I wholeheartedly support the rights of trans men and
women and consider them courageous pioneers, it will probably make
some unhappy to know that I reject the word “cis”, the term given
by transgender people to their nontransgender brethren. I don’t
consider myself a cis man; I consider myself a man. For while I
will happily employ any term that a person feels best defines them,
whether that be transgender, non-binary or gender fluid to name but
a few, I reject the notion that someone can force an unwanted term
onto another......
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/john-boyne-why-i-support-trans-rights-but-reject-the-word-cis-1.3843005
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From: D.A.W.
, 39 months, post #226 |
A label is only offensive, if the label intends offense. Not that
difficult a concept to grasp.
Because by calling me a trans woman and a cis woman just a woman,
you are invalidating me as a woman. You're saying that you only
accept me on your terms. If you give us BOTH labels you're saying
we're women, but of different experiences.
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From: guest (Fed Up)
, 39 months, post #227 |
Got bad news for you, you are not a woman on the same level as a
biological woman.
She is a woman, you are a trans-woman.
Be proud you are a trans-woman and leave women out of your issues.
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From: D.A.W.
, 39 months, post #228 |
And... there it is the transphobe shows his true colors.
Kindly crawl back into whatever hole you clawed out of. I'm not
wasting any more time with you.
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From: guest (Fed Up)
, 39 months, post #229 |
How is Caitlyn Jenner a woman on the same level that Chris Evertt
is a woman?
She is not, Evertt is a woman, born a raised as a female, competed
in sports as a female. Jenner decided after decades of living as a
male, competing in sports as a male, to change his body to mimic a
woman's, and no amount of crapping on the chess board, or tossing
out transphobe is going to change it.
I am happy to acknowledge that Jenner has decided to present
herself as a woman, but that does not make her a biological woman,
on the same level as one, or even a woman born with AIS, it makes
her a trans-woman.
Is trans-woman now something shameful to be?
If an author chooses to celebrate trans-women, or mention them, and
not use the word Cis to describe a non trans woman in a story,
there should not be attacks or pressure to write otherwise.
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From: guest (Fed Up)
, 39 months, post #230 |
And I have no problem with an author calling a trans-woman a woman
in a story.
I reject the term Cis in stories in an attempt to degrade a woman
to a level that is desired by the transmafia.
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From: DrunkenSneech
, 39 months, post #231 |
"Got bad news for you, you are not a woman on the same level as a
biological woman."
Frankly, Fed Up,
you don't know shit about D.A.W. or any other trans person. You
don't know anything about brain structures, hormone washes in the
womb, epigenetics, the SRY gene, or any of the numerous
scientifically documented ways in which trans people are
biologically closer to and/or identical to their identified sex.
Science has known it isn't just the simple "X or Y" for over 50
years now. Science has known that while less common, trans people
are just another normal natural expression of human biology. Gender
and sexuality exist on spectrums. But as usual, facts are
inconvenient to phobias and bigotry.
Trans women are women, the same as cis women are women. When you
apply the modifier to the first group but not the second, you are
attempting to stigmatize them as Other and not normal.
And cis is an established scientific term from Latin
that was used for decades before transphobes decided to take
offense for a non-poltical descriptive term. It's no more a slur
than "White", "left-handed", or "blue eyed." Taking offense at
"cis" where none has been intended is yet another standard tactic
by the powerful majority attempting to portray themselves as
martyrs besieged by uppity minorities.
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From: DrunkenSneech
, 39 months, post #232 |
"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like
oppression."
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From: guest (Fed Up)
, 39 months, post #233 |
"Trans women are women, the same as cis women are women"
In what way?
I ask again. How is Bruce Jenner a woman the same as Chris Evertt
is a woman?
Who are you to label any woman a "cis-woman"? As you say, you don't
know shit about them.
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From: guest (KJ)
, 39 months, post #234 |
Back to my major point.
Leave personal gender issues out of how an author chooses to write
a story. Do not demand they change wording to fit your narrative.
Allow free expression.
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From: guest (guest)
, 39 months, post #235 |
can hksfm lock this thread? I'm sick of the fighting...
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From: guest (Fed Up)
, 39 months, post #236 |
Was it required reading?
Consider it dead from my point.
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From: guest (lozz)
, 39 months, post #237 |
"Who are you to label any woman a "cis-woman"? As you say, you
don't know shit about them."
@Fed Up
It's pretty clear you don't know why that term is being used, it is
to differentiate people who are born a woman who were into
heterosexual relationships as opposed to transman/transwoman
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From: Valkan
, 39 months, post #238 |
LOCK THIS THREAD PLZ
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From: guest (hateallofyou)
, 39 months, post #239 |
no valkan don't be a beta bitch
discussion is important
so is being honest and understanding biology is real social science
is not
mods here are spinelss ps I don't care about your opinions and
don't read your comments basement dwellers
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From: guest (lul)
, 39 months, post #240 |
Yo there's a Trans mafia and no one invited me? Fucking rude.
Anyway love to all the women and cis women out there!
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