From: guest (Bud)
, 32 months, post #1 |
Would they still be eligible to serve? If it was proven that they
still had the same DNA but were just a different gender, would they
still be eligible to serve?|
Can you imagine that? If say Paul Ryan, Obama, Trump, Cruz, etc...
were gender swapped into female versions of themselves? And then
say Hillary, Warren, Pelosi, Palin, Jill Stein, etc... were gender
swapped into male versions of themselves?
Just think of the possibilities.
Would the men turned women play the part and be women and wear
dresses and skirts or be defiant and still think of themselves as
men and wear suits and ties?
Just a reminder, this thread isn't mean to start a war. It is
simply designed to think about the possibilities about what would
happen if politicians were gender swapped and how they would cope
with it and what they would wear.
, 32 months, post #2 |
What about politicians who were not born in the US, but who are now
in the body of someone who was?|
Would they be eligible... or would they pretend to be the person
whose body they now wear, perhaps just so they could be President?
And just a reminder, for those who didn't catch the post in another
thread leading up to this...
Please keep the political rhetoric to a minimum, and focus on the
gender aspect. This is a transformation discussion board, not a
, 32 months, post #3 |
I think some of the choices made would be dependent upon the scope
of the swap or transformation. Would it be a few isolated swaps, or
something akin to The Great Shift?|
I would think that in the case of a few isolated swaps, some may
decide to keep quite... especially the new women.
In the event of nearly identical DNA where only their gender had
changed, and it was isolated to politicians... well, there would be
some new laws getting created and the divide between Joe and Jill
Citizen and the politicians being widened.
In the event of a widespread TG event - chaos would ensue... and it
would be those who are natural leaders who would rise to... well,
lead. It wouldn't matter much what body they were in or what gender
they happen to now be, if their core personality remains mostly
intact, they're still going to be driven to lead (or power). Sure
there would be a few who may fail to adapt, and some who would be
so consumed by the wrongness of the TF/Swap, that they would fail
to take that lead as their main concern would be on trying to find
a way back to normal.
At least, that's my short take on it.
From: guest (Also Interested)
, 32 months, post #4 |
I always wonder how a transformation into someone that doesn't
exist (a female version of you for example, different fingerprints
for example), would be able to work in this world. I would imagine
your SSN may point to a male version still so employers would not
hire you for lying or presumably using a stolen SSN. This would
result in the person having to go to jobs where they aren't
checked, and so now we have a big fall from grace, so to speak,
having to dance in a strip club because that's the only way they
found a way to get a job.|
From: guest (Zhang Fei Fan)
, 32 months, post #5 |
If you read Fictionmania they made it as if getting new
identification documents is like a piece of cake...
Anyway this is worth its own thread... Will open one...
From: guest (Bud)
, 32 months, post #6 |
Let's make it worldwide but it only affects politicians and leaders
so us regular folk will not be affected. I think a lot of people
would get a kick and laugh from seeing all the former male leaders
of the world now be female and have to wear dresses or dress pants
suits and heels.|
, 32 months, post #7 |
"and have to wear dresses or dress pants suits and heels."
Why would they have
to wear such things? Attire is an individual choice in many places
around the world. Though social conventions push for certain
appearances, one can choose not to conform to them.
I would think that most leaders
(and most narcissistic politicians), would attempt to impose
control of the situation and front themselves as how they wish to
appear, not necessarily to bend to social convention now that their
body has magically TFd.
But that's just my opinion.
From: guest (Bud)
, 32 months, post #8 |
Because I said so, lol. It's my hypothetical scenario so they will
abide by my rules.|
You think Barry Obama would wear dress pants as president if he was
gender swapped? Nope. Michelle would force him to dress up girly.
They could have matching dresses HAHAHA!
, 31 months, post #9 |
Wish some of the politicians extremist views on rape and abortion I
think a gender change would do them a lot of good.|
Other however, like Obama, I don't think it would make any
difference at all.
I'd say in reply to the original post, a mental health check would
need to be made, I think for many more liberal politicians, the
gender change would not stop them from doing their job, but for
many especially more conservative politicians I think they would
have a complete mental breakdown and loose all credibility, I don't
think they could function in any job, let alone politics. So I
think they would be still able to serve but only if they were
emotionally stable following the change.
As for dresses, I think a good politician (like they have in
Canada) would be able to wear women's clothes and make up to work
even without a gender change, so yeah why not.
, 31 months, post #10 |
Freaking chauvinist Trump would kill himself.|
, 31 months, post #11 |
I dunno guest. Trump may be too much of a narcissist to commit
suicide over such a thing... and with the money he spends on
things... I don't feel it'd be too much of a stretch to see him
seek SRS / Gender Affirming Surgery in an attempt to regain his
From: guest (Bud)
, 31 months, post #12 |
Trump would look hideous as a woman LOL.|
Back to Obama, I think Michelle would love it if Barry got gender
swapped. They could wear matching dresses and heels.
So if Obama was gender swapped and biologically a female meaning
the DNA in the body he possesses is female, would he be "Madame
From: guest (Also Interested)
, 31 months, post #13 |
@Zhang Fei Fan but i see it also related to this topic...like a
right winger gets gender swapped and can't go back to work and now
has to live as a woman in a most primal way...having to sell/use
your body. I mean, they can't just show up in the Senate and
pretend they are who they were (assuming body swaps aren't common
or anything) and can't go back to their families....they can't
practice law or any other career bc they don't have proof they
graduated from anywhere...Like Trump wouldn't be able to use his
money if no one believed him...things like that. Fall from
graace...could even be a temporary "until they learn their lesson"
From: guest (dolphin)
, 31 months, post #14 |
So, I wrote a pretty comprehensive list of tgs for famous
politicians. Sorry if my leftwing bias shows, but I did try my best
to keep things apolitical or at least even-handed... with the
exception of some rightwing bigots who are the real life versions
of the "asshole victims" of typical TG fare, such as Todd
"legitimate rape" Akin, who have thus been given the standard
'brutal justice' TG treatment. Normal Republicans I treated fairly.|
I mixed in age, race and other tfs because the vanilla outcome of
having (mostly) a bunch of sexto/septuagenarians turn into
post-menopausal old ladies would have been monotonous.
It was a crisis when the President and First Lady were missing, and
instead there was a different, unidentified black couple sleeping
in the White House master bedroom in their places. It was even more
confusing when not a single person in the line of succession could
be found–– and unidentified people kept answering their cell
phones. More claiming to be famous power players called in to every
agency, asking questions. It didn't take long, though, to clear
things up when all these people revealed knew all the classified
information that their identities claimed to know, and they sure
talked and acted like them. Top government scientists sequenced DNA
for the claimants and confirmed otherwise inexplicable matches.
Every politician in the US, and their spouses and mistresses, had
swapped genders. So had about half their offspring and a smattering
of media figures. Many of the older septuagenarians and
octogenarians affected had also inexplicably regressed in age––
most to middle age, some to youth.
It almost goes without saying that over-the-counter birth control
was passed immediately. The transgender debate ended conclusively,
now that all the proponents no longer matched the gender on their
birth certificates. The now-female dominated Republican party
became more sensitive and sympathetic to women's issues. Some
holdouts from the far right continued with the anti-Planned
Parenthood agenda but most of them became silent on the issue.
––––The White House––––
President Stanley-Ann Obama:
Renamed after her mother instead of her father and seems pretty
glad about that. Seems oddly chill about the whole thing, with the
gray vanishing from her hair and considering the change free
license to dial up the sass. Stanley-Ann maintains a good sense of
humor and her facial expressions still spawn memes.
Arms like tree trunks. Deep, soothing bass voice. Even more popular
with women than ever, although now people seem much more
intimidated by him. Plays basketball with his brother and continues
to support healthy eating but now focuses more on personal fitness.
Still doesn’t want to run for office and is content to remain
active as a cultural figure.
Nathaniel “Satchel” Obama:
Satchel was upset at first, having been quite fond of being a girl,
but his older sister Malia helps him out and supports him after the
change and they remain quite close. Satchel decides to try out for
the high school football team over his parents’ objections about
concussions. Not allowed to wear hoodies, he feels more restricted
by his family’s stature than ever and becomes ever more eager to
get out and see the world on his own. Eventually, Satchel becomes a
prominent Black Lives Matter activist and an unofficial leader of
V.P. Josephine "Josie" Jacobs-Biden: (AR 30)
Still loves giving unprompted shoulder massages, but now they're
much better received. Josie and her husband, Jim (formerly Jill)
Jacobs-Biden (also AR 30) plan on having another baby. Another boy,
who they name Joseph Beau Biden.
––––The Presidential Race––––
Larry Rodham: (AR 45)
Slowly more popular, and actually pretty much instantly comfortable
in his masculinity while remaining in touch with his feminine side.
Rodham remains a feminist icon when he finally feels free to let
loose on the media and his opponents for decades of sexism. The
speech is very positively received for its honesty and passion, two
things he always felt afraid to show as a woman. Larry is secretly
stewing that Obama (and the gender change) robbed him of being the
first female president.
Commits infidelity with an intern and faces impeachment by the
female-dominated Republican caucus, but it goes nowhere after
months of grandstanding. Overall, a good president, and the
scandals seem to just slide off like teflon.
Billie Jean Clinton: (AR 33)
Has sexual relations with that man.^ Her restored relative youth
and desire to explore her new body result in a second wind for
Billie’s sex life. She enjoys giving the best BJs and doesn't even
care if it gets on her dress. After they both succumb to
infidelity, Billie and Larry acknowledge that a divorce is probably
for the best. Billie remains surprisingly close with Larry and
Chelsea, and is a frequently called-upon advisor to the White
House… and to Larry’s bed, as it’s rumored the two are still having
the best sex of their lives after the breakup. After splitting from
Larry, Billie settles down in Arkansas for year or two before
successfully running for Senator despite a new rash of sex
Bernadette Sanders (AR 21):
Berny is now about the age of most of her supporters. After a
couple weeks looking like a ridiculous nerd girl, with wild unkempt
curly black hair and frumpy clothing, Berny (still wearing the same
glasses) starts keeping her hair brushed and her clothes trendy.
Behind the scenes, her younger female staffers help pick out her
wardrobe and entice Berny to awkwardly, reluctantly declare them
all "besties.” Her voice retains the thick Brooklyn accent, but
it’s now spoken in a sultry contralto.
She starts publicly lamenting how much time society requires women
to maintain their personal appearance and becomes an overnight
feminist hero, too, for her off-the-cuff remarks. Berny's youth and
massive popularity–– "the voice of her generation," although she
was actually born four decades before most of them–– make Sanders
widely considered inevitable to be President at some point in her
Sanders’ wife, Mary Jane, was not affected by the change and acts
as a surrogate mother to her former husband.
Tina Kaine/Tina Castillo (race change, hispanic/Latina):
Ironically now the minority candidate many Democrats had wanted,
Tina Kaine has two sets of memories: one of being the white male
from St. Louis and governor of Virginia, and also of being born to
Honduran political refugees in Puerto Rico. Both sets of memories
turn out to be true, as there is ample photographic and physical
evidence of Tina Castillo and all her friends claim to remember her
as a headstrong and affable lady who took over her parents’
restaurant after their fatal car crash. It’s unclear whether the
Castillo identity was created by magic and exists only because of
the change, or if she used to be a real person who merged with Tim
Kaine. She has two husbands, both of whom she can remember being
completely faithful to for decades. Now she must choose between two
husbands: one, the also-TG’d mother of her 3 white children, and
the other, the father of her 5 latino children to whom she vividly
remembers giving birth. ¡Que sorpresa! (Telenovela music plays)
Donna Trump (AR 50):
Tanks in the polls among men, but gets a moderate boost among
women–– not enough to cancel it out. She keeps putting her foot in
her mouth and the angry strong-man act is a lot less endearing
coming from a woman. (Some supporters, though, turn even more
diehard. Some develop huge crushes on her, calling her a BILF. The
‘B’ is for ‘Billionaire.’) Disappeared for over a week before the
debates and reappeared having obviously having had work done.
Megyn Kelly gets endless enjoyment out of Donna's predicament and
after one particular angry outburst sarcastically wonders if
there's "blood coming out of her wherever." Coming fully off the
hinge and raging like a Real Housewife of New Jersey, there's talk
of Donna being replaced on the ticket by her more popular son,
Mel Knavs [formerly Melania Trump:
Divorces Donna, taking well more than half of the fortune–– the
prenup had been heavily favorable to “the husband”–– and almost
immediately marries a younger woman. But not before a brief and
scandalous tryst with Billie Clinton. Finishes that architecture
degree and becomes a more successful real estate baron than his ex.
Marla Pence (AR 15):
Overcome by teenage hormones, the anti-abortion crusader goes on an
omnisexual sex spree and gets herself knocked up the first week
she’s female. True to her principles, she decides to keep the baby.
Scratch that––babies. It’s quadruplets. She’s showing by the time
of the VP debate. Christians have mixed feelings.
Teodora Cruz, Jenny Kasich, Jezebel Bush, Bella Carson, Ayn Rand
Paul, Scooter Walker, Richelle Perry, Christina “Chrissie”
Christie, Carl Fiorina; Mary O’Malley, Lincoln Chaffee, Jean Webb
Now a proper southern lady, Lindsey starts wearing brightly
colored, conservative, elaborate dresses onto the Senate floor like
she just stopped by from the cotillion.
Marsha Ruby [formerly Marco Rubio: (race change, white/Jewish)
Not much changes for Marcia, other than her meager Spanish replaced
by some Yiddish and a shifting of the demographics with whom she’s
––––––Congress and Governors––––––
Joan McCain (AR 30):
Defeated in her primary by a tea party opponent, Joanie McCain
takes a break from the Senate. After so many years of melanoma, her
skin feels great and she vows to keep it protected with sunscreen
and girly exfoliation techniques. She can lift her arms above her
head again, which McCain hadn't been able to do in decades, not
since being a POW in Vietnam. All the pain is gone and she feels
amazing and able-bodied. She can’t believe what a grumpy old man
she’d become in recent years. In her previous life, McCain had
spoken out against women in the military. After a few months of
careful consideration, Joan returns to active duty as a Captain in
the US Navy air force and even sees combat as a pilot. She's
promoted to Rear Admiral in short order and rises steadily in the
Navy over the next decade, eventually becoming the first female
admiral to serve on the Joint Chiefs of Staff and later a Secretary
Can finally relax his face and stop smiling without worrying about
resting bitch face syndrome.
Speaker Paulie Ryan:
"Strong conservative with a smokin' bod!" runs the headline on the
New York Post for an exclusive interview. The former P90X spokesman
quickly comes to resent comments about her appearance. In an
interview on Fox News, she complains about being objectified and
her decorum and poise and commitment to doing her job being
ignored. Halfway through her interview, Fox cuts her mic and goes
live to Trump.
Estella Reyes [formerly Rep. Steve King (AR 17, race
The formerly highly controversial, racist representative became a
tiny 130 pound Latina girl with pert breasts and butt, and lost her
ability to speak English. She ran out into the city during the
confusion right after her change. When she was harassed by a police
officer believing her to be an illegal immigrant, she attempted to
show her ID–– and was promptly arrested for stealing a white man’s
wallet. She tried to resist arrest and was tasered repeatedly. A
sympathetic judge gave her a light prison sentence of just a few
months, after which she was deported to Mexico. There, she found
work as a prostitute for a short while. Then she got involved in
drug trafficking and made her way up, eventually becoming La Doña
of a drug ring, smuggling across the US border. Her calves are the
size of cantaloupes.
Sen. Eli Warren (AR 25, race change–half Sioux)
Now imbued with memories of actually growing up on a reservation,
Eli no longer faces criticism over claims of native ancestry, but
feels quite embarrassed about them. Eli’s new identity is almost
done with a tour of duty in Afghanistan with the U.S. Army, leading
to questions of whether Warren should return to the Senate or
finish his tour. He goes with the latter and returns to the Senate
after a few months.
Rep. Janelle Lewis (AR 33):
The civil rights leader and friend of MLK continues to be an active
presence on the floor. A year after the change, Janelle appears as
a guest dancer in a Beyonce music video.
Melissa “Missy” Romney (AR 40):
Struggling to adapt after losing her patrician image and very
uncomfortable in her new body. Pro-choice again. Has recovered from
"binders full of women" remark and is slowly becoming more popular
after (Mitt's) strong stand against Trump. Mulling another
Mitchell Bachmann and Samuel Palin:
No longer praised for being "hot," these knuckleheads fade from the
spotlight. Bachmann’s spouse sure seems a lot happier these days!
Gov. Nicholas Haley:
Frontrunner for Republican ticket in 2020. It's unclear whether
this was caused by the gender swap, or would have happened anyway.
Tammy Akin [formerly ex-Rep. Todd Akin:
Legitimately raped. Body doesn’t shut the whole thing down. After enduring victim-blaming because of the short skirt she was
wearing and suffering a brief episode of PTSD, she cuts her hair
into a pixie cut and goes aggressively lesbian for the rest of her
Richelle Scott [formerly gov. Rick Scott, R-FL:
Waist-length hair, long and silky and full. Also, she’s a mermaid.
Insists on serving out her term, making Tampa the unofficial
capital so she can use the aquarium as a governor’s residence.
Still doesn’t believe in climate change but pushes to fund many
more artificial reefs off the Floridian coast, having seen the
Maha Al-Habibi [formerly gov. Mike Huckabee: (AR 12, race/cultural
The former Mike Huckabee wakes up and smells the falafel. She’s in
a Bedouin tent half a world away from Arkansas. She’s relieved she
still remembers the English language and Christian prayers. Maha
finds that she is due to be wed to the sheikh in just a few months.
After weeks of dread and secretly praying to Jesus in private, she
eventually opens up to and finds solace in learning the Muslim
faith, finding being in a conservative religious culture to be
familiar and strangely comfortable. Her new faith actually makes
her a better, more complete person and she even looks forward to
accepting a conservative Muslim role as a dutiful wife. After the
wedding, the sheikh turns out to be a kind man, a good man, who
cares deeply about her and even eventually believes her story about
her former life. She bears him three children, and then he is
killed by an errant U.S. drone strike while on a trip into the city
with Maha’s oldest son. Maha, now in her twenties and guided by
dual faiths and backgrounds, becomes a prominent peace activist in
a slowly liberalizing Middle East, calling for non-violent
resistance against the U.S. while speaking out against drones and
Her former identity remains secret for the rest of her life.
Swims onto a beach and deposits 100+ eggs into the sand. That's
right; this change turned McConnell not only female, but also into
a real turtle.
, 31 months, post #15 |
dolphin - that post is marked for me to read later, but the cursory
glance had me laughing at the names. Should be fun, and thanks for
trying to keep the story from focusing on politics.|
, 31 months, post #16 |
Just looking around...|
, 5 months, post #17 |
, 5 months, post #18 |
From: guest (IwishIwasALittleGirl)
, 5 months, post #19 |
I would love to see Bernie Sanders in the body of a little girl 🤔|
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