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Teen Titans episode "Switched"
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A villain switches the minds of the two female characters "Raven" and "Starfire" in the others body and they must try and learn each others powers to save the rest of the Titans.
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From: spazzmasta*
, 251 months, post #1 |
dear Dale Ribbons:
First of all the teen titans comic sucks and the cartoon rules.
Second the animators are japanese and korean pal that why it looks
that way. Thrid japanese and korean animation is far supeior to US
animation. The episode "switch" I thought was funny and
entertaining to watch I hope that they try a more tg switch in the
future.
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From: Comp*
, 251 months, post #2 |
First off, the original Teen Titans comic was brilliant, ahead of
its time. The cartoon is a pseudo anime. Guess what second? Alot of
animated series storyboarded and made here are sent overseas to be
animated. They all don't look like anime. Try again.
Third, Chuck Jones, Fleisher Studios, Bruce Timm, etc etc all
DISAGREE WITH YOU. Hell, ever seen Big O? The anime that
DELIBERATELY COPIES MAJOR ELEMENTS AND STYLES from Batman:TAS.
Fourth, Everything Akira Toriyami did, Jack Kirby did ten years
before. Fifth, Everything the Japanese did, they learned from us.
Chuck Jones can beat any Japanese animator. Now learn some sense.
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From: spazzmasta*
, 251 months, post #3 |
ok , ok Comp or should I say Chump. First of all your right US
comic book artist and Animators started the style. But here are the
facts Slick!!! Japanese and Koreans have revolutionalize the
industry. That is why they rule and US animation sucks. My instead
of whining the new US artist should try a little hard.
Oh by the way Sport, show like big o and teen titans are doing what
we humans can't that is add parts of other to become better then
the sum of are parts. So Slick if you or anyone wants to discuss
this further I at CAW0030@unt.edu
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From: anona mouse*
, 251 months, post #4 |
maybe you are both mostly correct?
I havn't seen the new titans toon save for pictures but
japanimation is somewhat revolutionary to animation. chuck jones
etc refined it and disney made them full length. I suspect yellow
submarine had more to do with japanimation styles though than
disney movies.
The japanese embraced the long term multi episode story arc format
both in comics and animation. americans created comics and
animation but went the single story format. Comics just started
going into 6 comic book long formats for trade paperbacks later on.
Graphic novels pretty much came and went in the 80's and 90's.
Buffy and 24 sre a far better example of the storytelling that
anima became. the stories are selfcontained but like spazz says,
every episode of the season contributes to a larger picture that is
extra-ordinary!
But there is much to be said for the best of both short and longer
format storytelling!
Why must either of you tear down the other format to make your
point?
Spazz, japanimation may rule but Little nemo kicked butt this year
in the movies and it was made in the usa, tho possibly drawn
elsewhere.
Comp, if chuck jones were here he'd very likely applaud japanese
animation and want to work in that format. He made movies and
shorts and never restricted himself to one idea or length. Only the
market restricted him.
Let's be grateful that there is opportunity for many more styles
and hope that quality of any type wins out over repetive druge work
how bout a list from each of you of your favorites and why you like
them. Maybe we can all benefit from your taste in animation that
way!
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From: spazz*
, 251 months, post #5 |
anona mouse
your out look on the situation in correct. I feel that a ture
animator, artist, or filmmaker doesn't limits themselfs to only one
stlye of doing things. To do is will ultimatly kill the creative
process in a person. I have noticed that the style the once defined
what was american and what was forigen has blured. Due to expanding
ones own ablities and broadening your horizons.
ps. Buffy season 4-6 sucks, but season 1-3 and 7 ruled
pss 24 rules
pss keep the spirit
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From: Dale Ribbons*
, 251 months, post #6 |
Since I started this, I think I should say a couple of things.
First, I never, ever said I hated Anime or that 'it sucks'. I don't
and it doesn't. There has been several Anime shows I have liked,
and some I haven't. I just don't like the Anime style on the Teen
Titans cartoon. It is just ONE of the many reasons I dislike it.
Second, the Teen Titans IS NOT true Anime. It is written and
produced by the same people who did the Batman, Superman, and
Justice League cartoons. You know, some of those 'inferior'
American cartoons. They're Americans, 'Pal'. In fact, if it wasn't
for the success of the other shows, we wouldn't even have the Teen
Tians show to begin with.
Third, I really think it sucks when I can't add a review of a
kiddie cartoon without someone going nuts. You guys should chill
out.
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From: Comp*
, 251 months, post #7 |
I love anime. But I don't like seeing other people doing anime.
This is why Marvel's Mangaverse totally sucked. It was just
horribly stylized art with stereotypical anime/manga storylines
with Marvel characters. I sent letters to their editors telling
them "If they wanted to do a manga-verse, they damn well should've
done it using nothing but black and white with a more 'back to
basics' approach instead of 'Lets Japanese everything!'" The
problem with this, which I fully acknowledge, is that there's
hardly any competant inkers left in the comic book industry of
America. With Black and White, Inkers make the art work. There's
only about a dozen working comic book artists I would consider in
the 'legendary skills' category, one of which is Walt Simonson(who
I consider Jack Kirby's successor).
Onward. the original Teen Titans comic book started with a
Robin(Dick Grayson), WOndergirl, Aqualad, Kid Flash, and Speedy. It
was good, but the later additions to the team really helped it
shine. I also hate it that Raven, who was one of the most
compelling characters of the original series, to be distilled to a
single word: Goth. Its an insult to her original characterization.
In the comics, Starfire was a character that was 'without
moderation'. She's either supersweet or tear your head and shoot a
starbolt down the bloody stump. In the animated series, she's
almost like a Kasumi! In the comics, Cyborg's actually intelligent
and knows 99% of what his body can do. In the animated series...
he's a friggin moron!
The Teen Titans animated series is, to the original comic book, the
Adam West Batman series was to Bob Kane's original Detective Comics
#27(when Batman used to be full of angst and killed people with a
double set of pistols he carried on his belt).
Also, alot of classic animation geniouses of the US of A consider
anime to be amazing, while at the same time see ALOT(and I do mean
ALOT) of shortcuts they take in animation(lowering the amounts of
frames per second). In fact, Fleisher's Studios original Superman
shorts(the one with Superman killing Nazis) exactly as many frames
per second as a film camera at the time. Anime can have as low as 5
frames per second to 12 frames per second(and up to 60, but RARELY
or in extremely EXPENSIVE movies like 'Akira').
Random facts. Also, if it wasn't for Steve Ditko, there'd be no
Ranma 1/2(Rumiko Takahashi became a mangaka(manga artist) because
she was inspired by an issue of Spiderman).
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From: anonymous*
, 251 months, post #8 |
For god sake, I a F***en kid show. Grow up!! Also it not such a bad
show.
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From: liljenjend0ll*
, 229 months, post #9 |
For those who haven't noticed, the Robin in the Titans cartoon is
actually Dick Grayson, as there is an episode that has the group
look into their future, and Robin sees that he becomes Nightwing. I
just thought I'd mention that real quick.
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