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From: guest (Toast)
, 95 months, post #1 |
As the title asks
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From: cj
, 95 months, post #2 |
I'm guessing "no" based on existing threads that discus the show.
- http://metamorphose.org/thread/show.htp?threadid=9563&se0=thread&se1=show
- http://metamorphose.org/thread/show.htp?threadid=13836&se0=thread&se1=show
- http://metamorphose.org/thread/show.htp?threadid=15933&se0=thread&se1=show
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From: cj
, 95 months, post #3 |
To find more threads in this Message Board forum, simply scroll
down the main Message Board page. Right under the pages available,
will be a search box. Enter the text you want to search for and
click the search button.
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From: guest (Air Gear)
, 95 months, post #4 |
Unlike any of the other versions ... the Russians wrote their own
third season after using up all the original material. What happens
is ...
Click to show spoiler
Znetbfun svaqf gur crefba fur fjnccrq obqvrf jvgu, gung zhpu unf
unccrarq va n srj bs gur bgure frevrf. Jurer vg qviretrf vf gung
fur trgf uvz gb 'erghea' gb jbex naq onfvpnyyl cergraq gb or jub
fur hfrq gb or ng jbex (fur urycf uvz jvgu gur wbo fvapr ur'q arire
qbar vg orsber) naq jvgu ure cneragf jub boivbhfyl fgvyy guvax ur'f
gurve fba. Riraghnyyl va gur raq, gur fubj raqf jvgu n jrqqvat
jurer gur gjb bs gurz trg zneevrq.
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From: cj
, 95 months, post #5 |
Thanks for that run-down Air Gear.
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From: guest (Air Gear)
, 95 months, post #6 |
What's fascinating about Russian television is that when they
exhaust the original source material, they just keep going. After
remaking every single episode of Married With Children (bar a few
that didn't cross the cultural divide or something), they just came
up with new ones. In fact, the writers from the original US show
went and wrote some for the Russian version too.
They also work very fast, they did what the US version did in 11
years in something like 3. Margosha had a first season of 60
episodes and a second and third season of 90 episodes each as well.
These were like 45 minutes or more each as well.
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From: guest
, 95 months, post #7 |
Can you imagine how awkward that would be? Having sex with a person
that is in your original body and you are in theirs? Freaky.
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From: guest (Air Gear)
, 95 months, post #8 |
I'm guessing if they ended up taking it as far as getting married,
not only did they got over any initial squick factor that might
have been there but they also wanted to keep doing it.
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From: cj
, 95 months, post #9 |
"Can you imagine how awkward that would be? Having sex with a
person that is in your original body and you are in theirs?"
Actually, yes. :-)
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From: guest
, 95 months, post #10 |
Better than having sex with some other dude. (if you had to) :-/
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From: guest
, 95 months, post #11 |
You would go from being the one that has to wear a rubber to the
one tells the other to make sure it's on, LOL.
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From: guest (Air Gear)
, 95 months, post #12 |
Spoiler for the very start of Season 3 but I'm not going to hide it
as I really think it's unlikely people are going to sit through 150
episodes of unsubtitled Russian to get to this point assuming they
can even find it in the first place. If you are a Russian speaker
with an interest in seeing this unspoiled though, turn back now.
Actually, I forgot about the opening scene of the third season
where Margosha gets out of bed to walk to the bathroom and sees in
her reflection that she's back in her previous male body at which
point she starts screaming at the mirror; an obvious twist on the
scene in the first episode which is the reverse of this but then
she wakes up and checks ('Thank God, I still have boobs' seems to
be the thought process here).
Usually, the whole 'it was a dream' is grounds to throw things at
the screen but in this case it's OK because it's done really
quickly as a cold open at the start of the last season and it is
actually quite funny. Well, more so if you'd seen it without having
known what's going to happen admittedly ...
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From: guest
, 95 months, post #13 |
The Lalolas crack me up. They make me laugh because during a good
portion of the series the main character fights and looks
desperately for his former male body and a way to change back from
his current womanhood. Eventually the boobs, vagina, and estrogen
take over and he's content with never getting his penis back.
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From: guest (Air Gear)
, 95 months, post #14 |
What I like about the series is that there's 13 different versions
and each takes the starting premise and runs with it in several
different directions. Because pronouns get so complicated depending
on which series you're talking about, I'm going to use the
following terms.
1) the LEAD (self-explanatory)
2) the BFF (the best friend who is right there when it happens)
3) the FACUNDO (the new main love interest and
4) the SWAP - the woman who seems to be the collateral damage from
all of this when her body is taken away and given to the LEAD and
she gets their body in exchange. Even if it can be argued that they
contributed to their situation, their story seems to end up lost
behind that of the LEAD.
OK, we've done Russia for the best part but then there's where the
LEAD dreams, hallucinates, has a nightmare of confronting the SWAP
with a gun and shooting him dead. It's pretty dark stuff.
Then there's some weird stuff where the LEAD's parents come to town
except she's not exactly in the state they last remember seeing
their son as, so she ropes the SWAP in to pretend to be her. I
guess one advantage of finding your SWAP is that you can ... well
swap ID documents and the like but the problem comes about when all
that time, you've been saying your name is something completely
different (in fairness, she didn't know what he actual name was or
that she was an actual person who existed somewhere else
beforehand).
I think there was also the issue that she said she was her cousin
when she first had to explain why she's doing the presentation 'in
place of' her usual appearance self. Somehow she has to extricate
herself from that construct when she and the SWAP end up in a
relationship. As you might have guessed, even though the end of
Season 2 is a lot like the other Lalolas it was based on, the
FACUNDO gets the boot presumably sometime in Season 3. I think it
might have had something to do with the tension resulting from the
LEAD needing the SWAP to fill in for her with her parents and also,
I think alone out of all the Lalolas, the "LEAD" returns to work
after having had to go "away" for a "family emergency".
OK, that's Russia done, next stop Belgium!
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From: guest (Air Gear)
, 95 months, post #15 |
Oh, OK, there was one more thing about Russia, the reason the LEAD
ends up in trouble with her own parents is that there'd been a big
thing about how 'Gosha' was their son's nickname and oh what a
co-incidence, hers is 'Margosha' (actually going by Margarita).
Then she meets her SWAP who turns out had a completely different
name, she gets the SWAP's ID and of course, parents being parents
and snooping through stuff, found it. Of course, there's a great
hullabaloo over the names they were told and what's in writing.
Somehow the LEAD gets herself out of it, I guess it really did help
to work in marketing.
OK, *now* Russia's done (for now) and *now* it's next stop Belgium.
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From: guest (Toast)
, 95 months, post #16 |
Thank you very much for the information :)
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From: Air Gear
, 95 months, post #17 | |
Message deleted by cj. Off-topic - New Topic has it's own (related to this thread) thread --http://metamorphose.org/thread/show.htp?threadid=20014&page=-1&se0=thread&se1=show -- -- Lalolas "world tour" |
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From: cj
, 95 months, post #18 | |
Message deleted by cj. irrelevant |
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From: guest (Air Gear)
, 95 months, post #19 |
Oh, OK. I just figured the question's been answered as much as you
can and there's nowhere else to go with it and hence this thread.
Did the lead get changed back, no, no they did not. Except for that
moment when they dreamed when they did. (thought it was and
interesting springboard to see where the others took the same
question as short version their answer is either No, Yes, Yes/No
and No/Yes).
What would you suggest? Maybe instead of moving that post, I'll
just copy and paste the World Tour into a new one?
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From: Holly Dunn
, 95 months, post #20 |
Maybe I missed it , but what is the answer to the OP question? I
didn't see it in the other threads cj referenced.
I can recall seeing the female Margosha in a bridal gown, but did
she change back?
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