, 23 months, post #21 |
Probably all the more reason to leave a few blanks along the way
, 23 months, post #22 |
A pity they didn't got someone more feminine-looking than
Rodriguez. She has rough features already, so the change won't be
, 23 months, post #23 |
I can't say I agree with that. Probably the best way for that to
work is to cast a different actor to play the male version of the
character before who shares a believable resemblance to Michelle
Rodriguez. If anything, making the change look not too radical
would actually make it much more believable too.|
From: guest (Miss Pinky)
, 23 months, post #24 |
Agreed. Turning a contract killer into Bella Thorne or Ariana
Grande would just be a comedy, this casting makes it more
, 23 months, post #25 |
Either way I really really would like to see the film and hopefully
the LGBT community isn't successful and trying to make this film
From: guest (KJ)
, 23 months, post #26 |
"the LGBT community"|
Becoming the hate group they accuse others of being.
, 23 months, post #27 |
They aren't this one great big monolithic bloc so I think it's
unfair to lump all their opinions together like that.|
On the other hand, a lot will have to do with how well the people
scripting this thing set about it. If it's badly done and offensive
to most people, well the majority of criticism for all people who
voice an opinion of it will be negative, not just a particular
From: guest (KJ)
, 23 months, post #28 |
They do it to others, such as Christians|
, 23 months, post #29 |
Please back off of the political opinions, unless they are directly
related to the OP topic. We are starting to veer off-topic. This
thread is about the new movie.|
, 23 months, post #30 |
If the makers have any sense, they should be able to anticipate
what many of the (quite legitimate) complaints would be if they do
certain things in the screenplay. Make it a point of avoiding those
things from the outset.|
Using a quite tangential example of an example demonstrating how
that could both be done and not done is the MTV show Faking It.
Originally there was a lot of alarm about the supposed premise
before it aired but then it started to win a lot of support or at
least a we'll wait and see attitude from those groups with what
they actually did.
Though if you want to see how much of all that good and hard work
got wiped out in the last 17 seconds of the last episode of Season
1, watch that season finale. Oh so close ...
They've kind of undone some of the damage over Season 2 but they
did inflict on themselves quite a spectacular flame out which they
could have handled much better.
, 23 months, post #31 |
They also might want to work on the title too.|
From: guest (KJ)
, 23 months, post #32 |
, 23 months, post #33 |
OK, challenge for everyone. What sort of things can this film do so
that it doesn't fall into all the usual traps you'd expect from
this premise and hence offend the maximum number of people. (You'll
never avoiding absolutely everyone no matter what you do but you
can minimise it by actually surprising most people by avoiding the
worst aspects of what they might expect).|
Ideas on what to do and what to avoid?
, 23 months, post #34 |
Well, a lot of things that show up in Lalola are definitely out,
like having to put up with people getting grabby with you at work,
people shocked that you smoke a cigar, order a certain drink or are
into sports. I mean that stuff was dated when it came out even in
Stuff you could do is deal with the hassle with clothing. Not
because he "has to" dress a certain way, but because he may have to
go undercover and require a certain wardrobe. Here, context is
everything and being a spy/hitman makes things easier.
(a trope that is so used and so ridiculous in stories is to have a
bossy friend or mom who drags the person to the mall "well, you
HAVE to dress like a lady". What? That's such lazy writing. Have
your character put in a situation where he has to wear something
he's uncomfortable, and in a way that is believable).
, 23 months, post #35 |
Well, I'm going to take a step back and assume it's going to be
along of the lines of from the person responsible's point of view,
they're trying to humiliate their enemy as much as possible. So
it'd probably be more like The Skin I Live In (which got away with
its dark premise due to the charm of its lead).|
So I'm guessing, after the surgery by force (no way around that
being horrible), they've presumably set our lead up for being
brainwashed (probably through conditioning and torture - all carrot
and stick stuff) until they forget who they are and to add to the
humiliation (from the perpetrator's point of view) by turning them
into as submissive a female as possible. I'm further guessing this
plan goes wrong when they escape, eventually break their
conditioning and remember who they are and it ends with them having
to make a choice about getting changed back or not.
(In real life, it's reversible in the same way as fixing a smashed
vase is. You can glue at the pieces back together but it's
obviously not going to look the same, is it. At best in terms of
physical attributes it's approximate really.)
, 23 months, post #36 |
Here is a picture of Michelle in make up as the man. So she is
playing both roles not just the female side.|
, 23 months, post #37 |
That's what I figured they were most likely doing. As long as it's
convincing in live action and the acting is good (as well as the
script obviously), well then it might just work. Are they actually
filming or is this just makeup tests?|
, 23 months, post #38 |
Here are some new picture on set of the movie.|
All the pictures are on this website of you want to scroll though
From: guest (Saint)
, 23 months, post #39 |
Oh wow. Very cool find! Thanks.|
, 23 months, post #40 |
So what do we all think? This is probably going to be good to very
good or bad to extremely bad. I can't see it just being ordinary or
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