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SheZow
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A new cartoon premiering on The Hub on June 1, 2013. A boy becomes a superhero when he inherits a ring from his deceased aunt. The catch is the ring was meant for a female so he becomes a female superhero named SheZow.
SheZow has super-strength and super-speed; a "sonic scream," and SheZow's han ...more |
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From: Holly Dunn
, 131 months, post #41 |
Paul, CJ and other admins:
I see Shezow is no longer marked for deletion and there are notes
about the situation of the story.
I think you made a good decision letting Shezow stay, but
clarifying and describing what really occurs.
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From: cj
, 131 months, post #42 |
Thank you Holly.
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From: sexualitylab
, 131 months, post #43 |
Thanks, cj, Paul, and other admins for keeping SheZow as an entry.
I think it's the right call, and it's good that you included the
caveat about how the creator means for it to be cross-dressing
despite what appears to be a transformation in the show. Also, I'm
glad that you were able to watch the show, cj, to see for yourself.
Hopefully, you found it at least somewhat entertaining :)
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From: cj
, 131 months, post #44 |
"Hopefully, you found it at least somewhat entertaining"
I don't feel like I wasted my time, so I guess that would be a yes.
:-)
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From: guest (Masashi)
, 131 months, post #45 |
Paul, cj, et al.,
Thank you very much for keeping SheZow in the list.
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From: guest (The searcher)
, 131 months, post #46 |
ditto!
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From: guest (The searcher)
, 131 months, post #47 |
final thoughts... how can it be crossdressing if
A he doesn't want to be dressed like a girl, and
B he doesn't actually change from his clothes to Shezow's. They
just magically appear.
and C I wonder what he will look like as Shezow in a few more
years. Would a 17 yr old boy turn into a younger Shezow??? Or would
he appear as a 17 yr old young woman to the world with a figure to
match? Let's hope the show lasts that long so we can find out!
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From: guest (ShamWow)
, 131 months, post #48 |
^ I doubt the show will have a time change even if it goes on 10
years. American cartoons never do timeskips unless its a flash
forward, which is done in a scene, or even more rarely, a whole
episode.
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From: Holly Dunn
, 131 months, post #49 |
@searcher #47
Seriously, beyond the "poof" moment when he changes, it is really
obvious he is in drag.
Having DVR'd some episodes for this discussion, it becomes really
obvious it is crossdressing. Though as a child he visually looks
like a female, he states over and over while in costume that he is
a guy. He also makes jokes that reminds everyone he is a guy. He
tells his sidekick once that he is acting like a girl, and the
sidekick replies "You should talk." Not only does he speak with his
normal male voice, he tries to hide his disguise with a very bad
falsetto. His friends comment and joke about how bad it is in
several episodes. There are also a lot of jokes about transgender
issues. In a fear episode, he states that he feared going out in
public like this for the first time and how people would accept
him. Watch the show, the whole context of everything is that he is
a guy dressed as a girl.
They even have a controversial episode planned where he "comes out"
to his macho father that he is Shezow. And they use the term "comes
out."
So to answer your questions A) It doesn't matter what he wants, a
ring changes his appearance, B) The ring changes his clothes, and
C) He would look like a 17-year-old guy wearing makeup, a wig, and
her outfit.
Cartoon kids usually don't age. Otherwise the 9-year-old kids in
South Park would be in their mid 20's.
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From: guest (Lily)
, 131 months, post #50 |
Holly Dunn has it right. There are no characters in the show who
see this as a transformation, nor could any reasonably attentive
viewer mistake it for a physical transformation.
That said, I, Me, My Strawberry Eggs
faced exactly these objections when it was added to the database,
and it is still here.
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From: guest (Jayzie)
, 130 months, post #51 |
Well, at least Shezow looks hot, even though it's really a he.
Totally Haku Syndrome.
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From: guest (Jayzie)
, 130 months, post #52 |
So, curious.. is this officially a TF & Crossdressing site now?
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From: guest (Jayzie)
, 130 months, post #53 |
I love Shezow even more now that I know it's a guy!
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From: paul
, 130 months, post #54 |
Just to clarify, this is a transformation site. Cross dressing is
acceptable if it has the appearance of being a transformation.
Although many felt that Shezow did not meet this criteria, there
were some that did. My issue would be if those that argued for
inclusion misunderstood the requirements, then it should be
removed.
I haven't seen I, Me, My Strawberry Eggs. But from what I know
about it, it doesn't sound like a very strong entry. If anyone
wants to make an objection, please start a thread.
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From: guest (Denier)
, 130 months, post #55 |
Honestly i don't know how this cartoon would fit the entry. Set
aside the "transformation" factor and just focus on the before and
after pictures. I would give it to them if Shezow appear with
breast and hips, but here is the key: the author clearly never
wanted that, Shezow is a young male in a girl's suit and a wig.
BTW, am i the only one who perceives this cartoon as a project for
social inclusion for young transgenders? Not judging, but the tags
are pretty clear: trans, crossdresser, superhero, powers, coolness.
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From: guest (Jayzie)
, 130 months, post #56 |
Message deleted by paul. Vulgar language |
From: guest (The searcher)
, 130 months, post #57 |
again, cross dressing implies getting dressed. the boy doesn't get
dressed. Nor does he want to be dressed as a girl. He accepts the
outfit as part of being a super hero(ine) but would rather wear a
boy costume. If he were to change back to normal and put on a
dress, he might be a crossdresser. but he does not. So it is not
crossdressing in the literal definition of the word.
A solid reason for inclusion to the list might be that the CLOTHING
makes a magical transformation from male clothing to female
clothing. If you count inanimate object transformations as
transformations. And we do.
So paul made the right decision!
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From: guest (lily)
, 130 months, post #58 |
@guest (the searcher) #57
cross dressing implies getting dressed. the boy doesn't get
dressed. Nor does he want to be dressed as a girl....
The distinction being drawn here is between a person who is
cross dressed and a person who's body has been transformed.
It is not about the act of putting the clothes on. It is not
whether the person identifies as a crossdresser. It is that Guy is
always male-bodied. That he is not physically transformed into a
woman (or transformed at all). It is that he is a boy in female
costume. This is specifically excluded from the database, except
when it appears to be a transformation either to the audience or to
other characters in the story.
It is deliberately portrayed as drag to the audience.
No character in the show sees Guy change appearance and believes
that he has been physically transformed into Shezow. Those who know
that Guy has taken on the role of Shezow know that he is a boy in a
dress. Those who do not know that it is Guy in the costume beleive
that they are seeing the original Shezow.
If you count inanimate object transformations as transformations.
And we do.[/
I am pretty sure that the "inanimate" category refers to the
transformation of a person into an inanimate object, not the
transformation of one inanimate object into another.
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From: paul
, 130 months, post #59 |
Jayzie, if you wish to tell us that someone is pretending to be
you, please do so without the swearing. And poster #53 do not
pretend to be someone else.
Searcher, clothing transformations do not count. It is being
included because some (not all) people think it looks like a
transformation.
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From: guest (Jayzie)
, 130 months, post #60 |
Fine.
Poster #53 has no right to pretend to be me. My name is not the
most clever one around, but I won't be changing it because some
f****ng ***hole starts trying to make it seem like I'm saying
things that I'm not.
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