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From: guest (Mr Poll)
, 190 months, post #1 |
If a man were magically changed into a woman, what are some of the
realities of life as a female the new woman will discover that she
may have not been totally aware of or completely unaware of before
the change?
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From: guest (my input)
, 190 months, post #2 |
One thing I saw expained in a story is dealing with breasts 24
hours a day. Men only consider breasts when they see them or think
about them. Where he to become a she, espcecially a well endowed
she, she will now be dealing with them all the time. They willl
always be there, not just attached when time to breast feed or
during sex. They will be there when cleaning the house, putting on
a seat belt and if unlucky driving down a bumby road, trying to get
comfortable in bed, trying to find clothes that fit around them
correctly or finding a bra that is as comfortable as possible. How
hot and sweaty they get on a warm day......Just think of anything
done and they will be there and usually having to be delt with in
some way.
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From: magicmaximus
, 190 months, post #3 |
What story was this, was it a tg fiction story or just a net
article somewhere?
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From: cj
, 190 months, post #4 |
menstration... sitting to pee (every time)... getting into those
tight pants (especially jeans)... dealing with skirts/dresses...
and cosmetics... and hair... the purse... men.
Weight... hormones... emotions... shoes (especially heels)... long
fingernails... nail care & polishing... toilet paper... clean
restrooms (or location and number of restrooms even)... lines for
having to use the restroom... mirrors (for checking your appearance
before facing / re-facing the pubic)... wardrobe malfunctions.
The sheer volume and myriad of types of clothing and accessories...
the number of bathroom products, cosmetics, and hair-care products
that are needed to maintain your public "face"... the amount of
time needed to deal with getting ready every day... the amount of
luggage necessary for trips.
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From: guest
, 190 months, post #5 |
And you forgot about possibly being confused with your sexual
orientation. Would you prefer guys or girls as a woman?
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From: guest (my input)
, 190 months, post #6 |
""What story was this, was it a tg fiction story or just a net
article somewhere""?.....Was a "great shift" story on Fictionmania
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From: Chalkerfan
, 190 months, post #7 |
Everyone's missed the point. A man transformed into a woman can no
longer p** his/her name in the snow!
In all seriousness, can anyone? I've tried and Egyptian
Hieroglyphics are the best I can "ahem", carve
Another male bastion threatened?
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From: guest
, 190 months, post #8 |
Jeez, you people only look at the negatives, I on the other hand
would love to be a beautiful, young lesbian.
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From: cj
, 190 months, post #9 |
>>> "... can no longer p** his/her name in the snow! ... In all
seriousness, can anyone?"
Yep... but haven't done so in years. Since my penmanship is bad to
begin with, you can't any difference. :-)
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From: guest
, 190 months, post #10 |
put my name in snow MANY times... but it was my wifes handwriting.
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From: guest (uri)
, 190 months, post #11 |
Every social interaction changes. Men and women are treated very
differently.
It is kind of subtle thing but "female" is the gendered state of
existence in Western cultures. That is to say, in most Western
societies, in most situations, you are considered to be male until
proven to be otherwise.
Because I expected to transition, I used my initials - rather than
my first name -- on most of the papers I wrote when I was starting
my academic career. I cannot count the number of times somebody who
knew me only from my publications has expressed surprise at my
gender upon meeting me.
This holds for any kind of blind communication (like internet
message boards, where it is taken for granted that I am male), even
in gender-neutral contexts.
One thing that really surprised me was the difference in the way
women communicate depending upon perceived economic classes. After
transition, I felt I knew how to interact with women like the women
with whom I'd grown up, and with whom I'd been friends before I
transitioned. I, naively, thought that I'd joined a sisterhood that
spanned racial and economic divisions. What I found was that I'd
gained some proficiency one dialect of "female communication", but
that I hadn't learned the grammar of the parent language. My natal
female peers, who'd been girls in grammar schools and on
playgrounds, still sometimes have to explain to me why some --
seemingly inconsequential -- thing I've done or said has gotten me
called a "bitch" or "uppity" (or equivalent terms) by a woman from
a racial or socioeconomic category different from my own.
Because they are unpleasant, there were a lot of things about which
I'd been warned, but that still surprised me;
Having my input ignored or dismissed by male coworkers. This was
almost a daily occurrence for a while when I moved back to a
corporate job after years in academia. I see it happen to my female
colleagues as well.
Having male service providers (from toll both attendants to the
contractor I hired to rebuild my upstairs windows) comment on my
appearance or inquire about my availability and/or marital status.
Having female strangers do the same thing, but in an entirely
different way.
Having men make advances when I want to be left alone in some
public or semipublic place (and being called a dyke or worse, when
I politely explain that I just want to finish reading my email and
would not care to join him for a cup of coffee or a cocktail or a
walk along the river...)
Don't get me wrong, it is sometimes very nice to have someone
checking you out -- but it quickly becomes intrusive.
I have had to learn to smile and flirt, just enough to move things
along, even when I want to throw a tantrum or throw a punch.
cj is correct about the clothing issue. Even buying jeans is a
challenge; there are 40 different cuts, no two manufacturers' are
sized the same way, and the styles change seasonally. When I find a
style that fits and that I like, I tend to load up and to buy a
size up and a size down against the inevitable fluctuations in my
waistline.
Almost every top for sale in the Women's department is fitted --
even the plus sizes that I sometimes need to accommodate my
longer-than-average arms -- which means that everything has to be
tried on before purchasing, and that items received as gifts almost
always have to be returned or exchanged.
Women's clothing also tends to be more fragile than men's. I never
wear pantyhose, because they are so easily destroyed, and are such
a pain to dispose of when they run or tear in the middle of the
day. All of my dress clothes are "professional dry clean only",
which means that they are very expensive to maintain.
Breasts are a lot easier to deal with than brassieres. Bras are the
single most vexing and heartbreakingly complicated item of clothing
I have ever encountered. You will often hear it stated with some
kind of authority that some very large percentage of women
habitually wear the wrong size bra (alternatively, that most women
don't know how to properly adjust their bras). To women, such
assertions have the feel of truth because bras just don't fit. No
matter how many brands or styles you try, no matter how you adjust
the buckles and hooks, there is no way to be comfortable while
wearing a brassiere. Something is always poking or pinching or
digging in, unless it is loose enough that you pop out.
One purely physiological thing that has unexpected impact; women
have somewhat keener sense of smell than men. This I was kind of
expecting, but I hadn't counted on the effect of this difference on
my choices in everything from what I eat and drink drink (I no
longer like the dark and hoppy beers that I drank before HRT, I
used to think strawberry was too cloying and now it is one of my
favorite scents), to how long I can stay in a smelly environment
(the coffee shop is too pungent, the library too musty, etc.)
One last thin, that is common to all the post-op MTF women I know,
but which is rarely discussed in the literature. A very short time
after SRS, you noticed that male genitals just look ridiculous.
This isn't to say there isn't an attraction, but the idea of all
those dangling pieces sticking out from the front of a crotch
starts to seem very silly and poorly thought out.
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From: Chalkerfan
, 190 months, post #12 |
Just read uri's post.
Please ignore my last post.
This is serious stuff.
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From: kreplach
, 190 months, post #13 |
>>> ...dealing with breasts 24 hours a day. Men only
consider breasts when they see them or think about them
How is that any different than 24 hours a day?
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From: guest (The Singing Detective)
, 190 months, post #14 |
Everyone's missed the point. A man transformed into a woman can no
longer p** his/her name in the snow!
Sure, she can... in Braille.
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From: guest (G7subs)
, 190 months, post #15 |
Wow URI.. that was really informative. Thank you for sharing your
experieces!
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From: guest (freeballer)
, 190 months, post #16 |
gotta be honest with u, some of that I was kinda surprised hearing
of post-op. I assume that the experience is similar to natural
women just not so easily explained.... and does seem kinda strange
in some ways. Maybee I'm too curious, dunno, but I'd still go
through the hassles if it was real... But I think I'd wanna be a
lesbian like poster 8
I think I'll survive not spelling my name, mostly since I haven't
done that since I was like 10. Think some of the diff would be
sorta funny at first, would be awesome to change and be able to
write down what it felt like....
oh well
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From: guest (Goofus McDoofus)
, 190 months, post #17 |
I have my doubts about the supposed "post-op transsexual" comments.
No sort of sexual reassignment surgery is going to improve your
sense of smell. The crude remarks about male gentalia and how they
"became" silly-looking sounds a lot more like someone with issues
from the get-go rather than any woman I've ever met. I've certainly
never heard any man (and I've met two F to M transitioners) comment
on how dorky women's breasts look. Goofus McDoofus.
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From: guest (Strange Man)
, 190 months, post #18 |
Hmm, it seems that women/girls complain about their breasts and
bra's and say what a pain they are, yet one's with small breasts
(and some wih none) complain about NOT having breasts because they
don't feel like a woman. On top of that it seems those with the
cash only want to make them bigger and bigger, and in some cases
then say they are TOO big and have them reduced, only to then
complain they are sagging and have 'firmed up'. If you add this to
the fact that many girls confess to teasing less developed girls
theres only one real conclusion: FEMALES JUST LIKE TO COMPLAIN!!.
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From: guest (uri)
, 190 months, post #19 |
Goofus
It was gradual, but I think that the changes to my sense of smell
started about 6 months into contrasexual hormonal replacement
therapy (HRT). I confess that I have not researched this, beyond
talking to MTF peers (all of whom reported similar experiences) and
my endocrinologist (who did a literature search, and told me that
it was "sometimes mentioned" as an effect but that it did not
signify anything worrisome and the therapy could be continued),
As for my "crude comments", at the risk of further offending you
sensibilities, allow me to clarify. It is the idea of *having*
external genitals that starts to seem strange. I really don't know
how widespread this observation is among the MTF population. A
friend, who underwent her SRS about a year after I mine, mentioned
it to me and I had a sort of "A HA!" reaction. I asked about it
while with a group of pre- and post-op transwomen at a Southern
Comfort Conference a few years ago, and it was (as far as I can
recall) something all the post-ops had experienced.
The transmen of my experience were all very relieved after
completing top surgery, so I think that the breast issue is
different. For FTM folks, breasts seem to be a cause of anxiety and
discomfort. Going topless, after surgery, is kind of a FTM rite of
passage. While I've never talked about in any great detail, the
straight-identified transmen I know seem to feel about other
people's breasts the same way that non-transsexual straight men
feel about other people's breasts.
freeballer, I tried to answer with things from my experience that I
thought a man who was suddenly and unexpectedly transformed --
rather than as the result of years of work with medical
professionals, practitioners, counselors, and consultants -- would
find surprising. The length of the post notwithstanding, I didn't
spend a lot of time thinking about it.
To be honest there weren't too many surprises -- pleasant or
otherwise -- during my transition. My counselor has a practice
devoted entirely to trans clients, my endo had seen many MTF
patients, and I'd literally spent years reading everything I could
about gender reassignment. Once I was "out" I joined support groups
and started socializing with other MTFs. The positive effects of
transition were things I'd been hoping for -- so it was, perhaps,
inevitable that my list of surprises would skew toward the
negative.
Compared to the constant discomfort I felt before transition, the
"hassles" are minor. It cost me a lot; financially, personally, and
professionally, but "you get what you pay for" and I am a happier
person now than I could have even imagined being before transition.
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From: guest (tris)
, 190 months, post #20 |
As another MTF post-op transexual, I'll echo virtually everything
that Uri has said. I'll add that after my SRS, the color green
looked different to me.
Regarding the original question of the thread, I'll add one word --
the speculum. That's the thing you discover on your first visit to
the gynecologist, and it isn't very pleasant at all...
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