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From: cj
, 92 months, post #1 |
Sam
wasn't a perfect movie, but it was hardly bad.
I found the movie quite enjoyable, and the story it told was paced
quite nicely. While I found the male Sam rather unlikable, I think
that her transformation was quite redeeming. I found myself being
able to relate to several (but not all) of the characters... and I
found myself wishing to be our transformed titular character.
I would classify this one as a gender-bending Rom-Com, because the
main focus of the story was on the transformation of a man with a
bad attitude towards women, learning about the world through a
woman's eyes - told in a light-hearted way, with some romance
involved.
I feel that there were a few poorly written parts of the movie
where subjects or characters were perhaps a tad hard to believe,
and some subjects touched upon, that probably could have used a bit
more than cursory mention.
I recall only one unanswered question that this movie never
bothered to even come close to exploring --Click to show spoiler
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vqragvsvpngvba?
Some have mentioned the scene transitions, and if you're looking
for them, they do seem a bit long... but if you're not looking for
them, most seem to be about right for a movie that uses such a
transition. I did notice one scene where the framing of the shot
didn't make sense to me -- that was one of the first interactions
between Sam and Alexander Blondell. They got all of Bryan Batt's
head in the shot, but seemed to chop most of Natalie Knepp's
head... well, most of Ms Knepp altogether right out of the shot.
Overall, I thought it was fun and enjoyable, but due to a few
imperfections, I'd give it a 3.5-4 out of 5, and a 3.5 out of 5 for
the TG aspect.
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From: guest (Zhang Fei Fan)
, 92 months, post #2 |
Thanks CJ!
However the spoiler tag is unclickable. Probably because you copy
paste it from another thread.
On the matter you mentioned in that spoiler.
Click to show spoiler
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gur cerivbhf Fnz guernq. V guvax guvf vf jurer fhfcrafvba bs
qvforyvrs pbzrf vagb cynl. Bs pbhefr gurer ner fbzr crbcyr jub svaq
vg uneq gb qb fb, juvpu vf jul V unir bcrarq n guernq gb gnyx nobhg
guvf znggre.(Fbeel PW, pna'g chg pyvpxnoyr yvax va fcbvyre gnt fb V unir gb chg
vg bhgfvqr)
http://www.metamorphose.org/thread/show.htp?threadid=20241&se0=thread&se1=show
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From: cj
, 92 months, post #3 |
Dang! I knew I forgot something. Thank you Zhang Fei Fan.
Here's the spoiler text from post 1:
Click to show spoiler
Ubj jnf Fnz noyr gb bcrengr nf Fnznagun jvgu ab inyvq
vqragvsvpngvba?
Yes, no worries on that link. If someone wonders what the link is
for, they're probably going to figure out that that concern was
addressed in the spoiler text.... or they'll read this and figure
out that the link may spoil things if they haven't watched the
movie.
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From: guest (ske)
, 92 months, post #4 |
Still sounds sort of interesting. Where is it available for
viewing? As far as I have heard, it won't be out in DVD till
November.
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From: cj
, 92 months, post #5 |
"Where is it available for viewing?"
See post 19 of the "Sam (2016)"
thread.
And please keep the posts here about reviews of the movie. General
discussion can be found in the "Sam (2016)"
thread.
Thank you. :-)
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From: guest (Mr Ed)
, 92 months, post #6 |
I've just noticed this movie is getting uncommonly good reviews on Amazon.com
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From: cj
, 92 months, post #7 |
Message deleted by cj. Rewording last sentence for clarity / to be less... complex. |
From: cj
, 92 months, post #8 |
Yeah, but that's based on only 11 reviews. It'll take some time for
the reviews be more representative to the feeling of the general
public-at-large.
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From: Repulso
, 92 months, post #9 |
I just saw it on Google and I thought it was really good. The old
cliche about the male chauvinist having to live life as a female
but well done. Good performances and gawd! ...the female lead,
Natalie Knepp, was great in her role.
I know I'll watch it again.
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From: guest (KJ)
, 92 months, post #10 |
My "review" ..... I do not know how to cover spoilers, and there
are light ones here, so STOP now if you do not want to get a little
look, but I do not reveal the ending.
Some of what I disliked;
Cheap type filming in a few places, looked low budget, but hey, it
was!
The oh I am taking my cousins high paying job for a while....No,
what should be is you are going to be a waitress. In a whole
different work environment, economic status, along with being a new
gender.
Over the top cliche male chauvinists from Sam, Seymour and guy in
bar.
"Samantha" is cute, but not so hot that men would be falling over
themselves for her. In my opinion, "Margaret" was way more
attractive. Would rather have seen her in the lead role.
They could have made Samantha cuter by giving her a shorter
hairstyle. I would have preferred straight, just below or at
shoulders, with bangs. Or a bob.
The girlfriend "Cynthia" was made more annoying than she was by the
poor acting.
Morgan Fairchild, good part for her, written poorly.
Some of what I liked;
It was a TG movie!
Great to see Stacy Keach!
Bryan Batt is just good in anything! I would almost be gay man if I
could look as good as him.
Once Sam became Samantha, she went to "girl school".
The building of her feminine side, seeing/hearing her thoughts.
Discussing her libido, or when looking at the baby, feeling
something, and/or thinking, that being a woman most likely a mother
may be her future now.
Describing how now as a woman she can sense way better what people
are thinking or feeling.
There was a choice, remain Samantha or go back to being Sam, which
to me would mean being with Margaret
The ending, but wanted more follow up of what came later, as in
seeing snapshots from the next 3 or 4 years.
OK, that is it. The wait is over for me, has been a while coming.
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From: cj
, 92 months, post #11 |
I liked the long hair. If they'd have had more time, I would have
loved to have seen Sam learn how to deal with care and styling of
that beautiful mane.
I agree with your likes KJ, especially so on the snapshots idea for
the after story story.
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From: Repulso
, 92 months, post #12 |
Spoilers ahead and I don't know how to hide it with the 'fancy
click'. Spoiler territory!!
I agree with some of your dislikes KJ but for me they were not
dislikes but more just questionable situations. I did NOT know the
shopkeeper was Stacy Keach until you mentioned it and yeh, it was
great to see him. Bryan Batt was perfect in the movie.
I liked Sam's long hair but frankly I think she would have looked
with just about any hair style. Overall a classic TG movie.
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From: guest (KJ)
, 92 months, post #13 |
It was just my preference on the hair length, to me she would be
cuter. Just like I think Margaret was more attractive.
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From: cj
, 92 months, post #14 |
I moved the "HOW TO: Use Spoiler tags"
thread to the first page of the Message Board again. I think it is
easy to read and follow, but let me know if it needs improving.
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From: guest (KJ)
, 91 months, post #15 |
Do not read this comment unless you want to know the ending.
Click to show spoiler
V yvxr gb guvax gung Fnznagun naq Znetnerg jvyy abj orpbzr pybfr
sevraqf. Fnznagun jvyy uryc ure jvgu zra, trggvat bire Fnz, naq
Znetnerg jvyy or Fnznagun'f znvq bs ubabe ng ure
jrqqvat.......Arire xabjvat gung Fnz, jub fur unq n pehfu ba vf
npghnyyl ure arj pybfr sevraqBar bs gur shgher fancfubgf V jnagrq gb frr jnf obgu bs gurz
gbtrgure, Fnznagun va ure jrqqvat tbja naq Znetnerg va ure znvq bs
ubabe qerff
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From: Repulso
, 91 months, post #16 |
Don't read this, it's a spoiler.
Click to show spoiler
Fnzr urer XW rkprcg V ernyyl jnagrq Znetnerg gb xabj jub Fnz
vf/jnf. Qbp gbb nf ur qvqa'g frrz n uhaqerq creprag pbaivaprq.
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From: guest (anon)
, 91 months, post #17 |
I liked it a lot. And the lead is gorgeous. Wish that happened to
me : (
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From: guest (anon cont)
, 91 months, post #18 |
...continued from above.
"I feel that there were a few poorly written parts of the movie
where subjects or characters were perhaps a tad hard to believe,
and some subjects touched upon, that probably could have used a bit
more than cursory mention."
cj wrote this and I agree. I posted with about 10 minutes to go and
I knew how it would end - a very pleasing ending for me.
...but back to cj' point about the some of characters inevitability
of which I only found one... the boss. The other things are but
minor quibbles (Sam is wearing expertly applied eyeliner too early
on is one example, and she's also wearing panties before she goes
to the store (which perhaps can be explained away by the fact that
male Sam is such a womanizer it's not inconceivable a pair might
have laying around his pad). And, the male Sam...two tads too
brusque... but this was after all fantasy. I could've made it
perfect. ; ) For how it affected me 4.5 out of 5.
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From: guest (anon yet again)
, 91 months, post #19 |
'believably' instead of inevitability and an apostrophe 's' on
cj...really should proof before submitting. : )
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From: guest (guessed)
, 91 months, post #20 |
Yeah -- it was almost unwatchable for me. I fast-forwarded through
much of it.
Click to show spoiler
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Svyz Cebwrpg srry gb vg (rirelguvat jnf fubg gbb pybfryl gb uvqr
gur snpg nyy gur ncnegzragf jrer gur fnzr ncnegzrag naq pbhyq gurl
unir chg Fgnpl Xrnpu va sebag bs fbzrguvat bgure guna n gur enpx bs
zbqry cnvagf -- Lr Byqr Phevbfvgl Fubccr vf pyrneyl n ubool fubc).
Click to show spoiler
V fghzoyrq bire gur wbo guvat gbb, fur unq zber gebhoyr trggvat
cnfg gur qbbezna guna fur qvq trggvat cnfg UE ng gur zbqryvat
ntrapl.
For me, though, the biggest problem was that the script is so
misogynistic. The writers (both men?) really seem not to like women
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