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From: guest (Tirem44)
, 91 months, post #21 |
First question for Air Gear. You seem to be saying the Eva Adams
pilot is somewhere on the net. Where can we look for it? I'd like
to see if it was as bad as the people who read the pilot script say
it is. (I hope it is terrible, or else I'll be mad that American
sponsors are so immature that they were afraid of the harmless
subject matter. But people should also be mad that Sony (who was
handling the English language rights) because they either couldn't
sell (or didn't much care about selling) the Lalola rights to some
other American company. (HBO could use it; I can't think of one
series they've produced except Game of Thrones worth watching).
I wasn't impressed with SWITCH in the theaters, either. By that
time Blake Edwards seems to have become a burnout. He not only
didn't understand women, he didn't even seem to understand men.
I haven't a clue why Steve/Amanda compulsively wears ultra-sexy
dresses. That didn't seem to be a part of his curse. But at least
it gives a watcher something to hold his attention with the plot
and characters being so awful.
I'd say Switch is a good idea with a bad development. Someone above
wonders why no Switch sequel was ever made. Well, Switch itself was
a remake of Goodbye Charlie (Edwards admitted that in an article).
But I liked GC better. The mental change comes a little too
quickly, but it gives Charlie a real experience of being a girl.
The timid ending is uncalled for. The Broadway play wasn't so
cowardly. The movie puts in a death scene just when Charlie begins
to show a little heart (something that Steve never does). If
Charlie had lived, she could have attained wisdom and redemption.
Steve/Amanda always seems to be an outsider looking in, and never
gains any useful insights.
But as for a SWITCH remake, well, there is one, and its ambition
and development are everything that one can hope for, LALOLA; Lola
becomes the woman we would have liked Amanda and Charlie become.
How close LALOLA is to Switch is largely unnoticed because of the
language barriers that keeps English speakers from appreciating any
of the Lalola series. It is so clear that the motifs of the first
couple episodes of Lalola are borrowed from Switch. Even (the
Argentinian) Lola's mostly-red first-day-at-the-office dress
reminds us of Amanda's. It's well written, well characterized, and
well acted. At 150 episodes (7 years of material if it had been a
full 21 episode yearly series instead of a daily serial), it turns
the basic ideas of Switch into a tour de force. And it doesn't have
the downer endings that ruin both GC and Switch.
BTW, at YouTube "Lalolaenglish" has 28 episodes of the Argentinian
Lalola up, all with decent English subtitles. That's more than
anyone else has.
There have been few big studio tg movies. Turnabout (1939), Goodbye
Charlie (1964) and Switch (1991). That seems to be a cycle of 20-25
years between each. This is the 25th year since Switch. (Of the
small movies, I like Cleo-Leo and Identity Theft best.) The only
promising-sounding new one I hear is coming up is (Re)Assignment.
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From: guest (Bud)
, 91 months, post #22 |
I think Switch is a movie where you're like "well this isn't that
good but hey there's really not much of an alternative". You can
also say that another reason why people watch Switch or watched is
for Ellen Barkin's body. You have to admit when she was in her
prime, she had a gorgeous body. And since she's playing a man in a
beautiful woman's body, there's going to be an emphasis even more
on the butt, legs, and cleavage.
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From: guest (guessed)
, 91 months, post #23 |
I remember reading a review published at the time the movie was
released. It might have been Roger Ebert. Some one famous enough
that I read the review long after the movie was available on disc.
IIRC, the explanation offered in the review was the Amanda was
dressing the way Steve thought
women dressed, the way he would dress a girlfriend. It makes a ind
of sense; he was a thoughtless, sexist boor who valued women only
as sexual conquest, he simply lacked the ability to see women than
other as sex objects even when embodied as a woman.
Of course, contrast this wth the scene where Amanda gets her hair
cut in man's style and a much better explanation is that the movie
is a badly executed riff on Goodby Charlie, updated in a way that
made it instantly dated.
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From: guest (Bud)
, 91 months, post #24 |
Maybe Steve dressed provocatively to punish himself subconsciously
or to make people believe he was a hot babe.
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From: guest (BillCipher)
, 91 months, post #25 |
to Tirem44,
from what i read about an interview with Nathan Brooks (Sam) he
claimed that Switch was too mean spirited and that Sam was suppose
to be a more light-hearted version. I remember seeing switch and
didn't really care for it, but Sam, just from the trailers, caught
my attention and i want to give it a chance to see if it can beat
Switch and Good-bye charlie.
But i agree, Switch wasn't a strong movie in terms of it's
execution, it was fan service and the main character wasn't even
likable.
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From: guest (Captain Gallant)
, 91 months, post #26 |
Well, a main character doesn't have to start out likeable. Regina
(the Evil Queen) starts out unlikable and in the 6th season is very
likeable. If the story is a story of moral regeneration, starting
out bad is not a bad thing. But it fails to please (with most
viewers) if a jerk of a character stays a jerk to the bitter end,
as in Switch. What's the point of it all? What was Edwards trying
to say? He ended up saying nothing. Goodbye Charlie, in contrast,
had Charlie beginning a moral regeneration; she could have become
very likeable. But the cowardice of the writers killed her off
instead of setting her up to live a new life with an improved
outlook. The George Axelrod play had Charlie surviving and changing
for the better. It seems like the development process of the idea
went progressively backwards over the 30-some years. But the idea
was well rescued by LALOLA, though, with the lack of subtitles, one
can only understand it faintly. (There should have been no problem
for India and Philippines to have English subs; they have had
extensive exposure to English speakers and should be interested in
selling to their trading partners.)
Oh, and why should Steve dress provocatively? He didn't seem to
embarrass easily. It may have been that he had an egotistical and
showoff personality. Maybe he had a compulsion to attract attention
and admiration wherever he went. He was probably dressing the way
that he enjoyed seeing women dressed. Having bad taste, he dressed
in bad taste. (Bad, but not uncinematic. Honestly, Miss Barkin's
wardrobe is about the only good reason to watch that movie twice.)
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From: guest (Bud)
, 90 months, post #27 |
I hated the white panties that Steve wore as Amanda. Just seemed
like lazy and convenient for him to wear them. I know he wore the
black boyshorts that Margo wore when she killed Steve but still I
would have loved to see Amanda struggle with a black or red lace
thong or something or perhaps a bustier and panties with garter
belts and thigh highs.
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