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From: guest (Sharifah Armani)
, 98 months, post #101 |
This drama got solid script... I was expecting a slapstick...
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From: Holly Dunn
, 98 months, post #102 |
The translations are great. What a well done story.
Episode 13 brought me to tears when the angel blew the little girl
a kiss and she realized she was hugging her dad.
The Viki translations are okay, but the https://www.dramafever.com/
translations kill it. Sometimes the viewer comments on Viki add
something, but there are mostly aimed at the fandom of the male
star.
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From: guest
, 98 months, post #103 |
Good drama. Very touching on lastest ep.
I can’t accept that only 2 ep left.
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From: guest (james)
, 98 months, post #104 |
definetely worth paying for dramafever premium
Anyone that have seen the series, is there anything worth seeing
from episode 7 to 13?
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From: guest (james)
, 98 months, post #105 |
Moreover, does the man in woman's body have sex or a kiss in any of
the chapters? Or explore her body?
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From: guest
, 98 months, post #106 |
It's Korean public television, so basically no with one kind of
exception involving a run in in a hotel corridor but even that
plays out on screen in a way you may well not expect.
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From: guest
, 98 months, post #107 |
It's totally worth seeing if you like Korean drama though. Secret
siblings! Hidden parentage! Ludicrous over the top gang fights.
It's great.
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From: Holly Dunn
, 98 months, post #108 |
Though I have been trying to watch only for the TG element, I find
myself getting caught up in the story.
The subtitles at https://www.dramafever.com/ are great, and the
ones at Viki.com are decent.
I cried while watching the scene between the main character and his
former life daughter in episode 13 where the angel blows her a kiss
and she realizes the man comforting her is her dad.
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From: guest
, 98 months, post #109 |
There was an interesting moment in one of the recent episodes where
the gangster was musing to himself that he could at manage
continuing life as it is if he got a chance to finally get to know
his sister and spend time with his actress friend (and never quite
girlfriend) which are both something he failed to do when he was
alive.
Possible foreshadowing that he might get the option to stay and
life out the rest of his life to do just that, just with the body
he's now got?
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From: guest
, 98 months, post #110 |
I don't read spoilers but I'm pretty sure that once their time is
up, they have to go back to Heaven. That's how it was in the
Japanese movie. It sucks but it is a remake. I mean it would be
cool if they got to stay on Earth in their new bodies but I would
be doubtful about it.
These two instances alone should make the case that the male
character in the gorgeous female body definitely embraces but also
struggles with being a gorgeous woman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv0clV9t4w0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPkPWojFhIM
Oh Yeon Seo is funny and cute.
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From: guest
, 98 months, post #111 |
That would be the most likely outcome but on the other hand, they
already changed one big thing by flipping who got the female body
and who got the male one from the two previous Japanese versions
and the original book so until we see the end, you never know for
sure.
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From: guest
, 98 months, post #112 |
Found it. Just past the 46 minute mark in episode 12, Han Gi Tak
thinks "I want to stay by your side, even if it's like this."
according to the translation.
So maybe that's foreshadowing. After all, you have the rest of
eternity to spend in heaven anyway, so as deals go, there could be
worse offers than the body they gave him, all things considered.
Especially since most people who end up dead don't seem to get any
chance to go back at all. Looks like that's how Han Gi Tak saw it
as well because he just got on with it after voicing his initial
disapproval with management.
Extra bit of theorising. Maybe it was given to him originally by
heaven's bureaucracy to try and tip his hand towards giving up and
going straight back to heaven because of their view being that in
their opinion, he really didn't have any reason to go back.
Obviously that didn't work out for them.
Mind you, given how neatly everything has fitted together like a
jigsaw, it could be argued that the Head Guy Upstairs knew what
they were doing from the beginning even if their underlings and the
recipient of their attention didn't. Seems increasingly likely as
time goes on actually.
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From: guest
, 98 months, post #113 |
This is almost over. Shame really as I've really enjoyed it and
would like to have seen more of these two, preferably on some wacky
road trip but almost anything's good.
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From: guest (Cassandra)
, 98 months, post #114 |
I heard that the ratings is very low in Korea... something like
below 5%... So I guess the concept is not well-received in
conservative Korea.
It also doesn't help that the drama doesn't establish a clear "main
couple" for the audience to root for. The existence of a "main
couple" is important for most audience as it allows them to
emotionally invest in the drama.
To take an example from another TG drama, Lalola, it was never a
doubt that audience were supposed to root for Lola & Facundo and
root against anything that comes between them. This is clear from
the beginning.
"Please Come Back, Mister" has a good storyline but I can see why
it's harder for typical audience of evening drama to emotionally
invest in it.
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From: Holly Dunn
, 98 months, post #115 |
Darn. No new episode today. Two tomorrow, though. Korean elections
pushed them to Thursday.
Sad this is coming to a close. It is very well done.
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From: guest
, 98 months, post #116 |
I can't stop crying tonight. Gi-Tak really made me cry
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From: guest
, 98 months, post #117 |
Haven't read the last few posts in case they're about the ending as
I haven't seen the last couple of episodes.
Here to register a guess. Early on, I think Maya said if they miss
their train back to Heaven, something terrible would happen (in the
same way that if they told anyone the truth about who they are -
and we saw what could happen there).
I wonder if that "terrible" thing is that they miss their train
back, they have to live out the rest of the lives of the bodies
they're in before they then get to return. So actually not terrible
at all as they get to finish off the lives they would have had had
then not died prematurely, albeit with some alterations (some more
altered than others).
I'm also wondering if they told that and it's framed to them as a
choice at the end, they have a chance to leave or stay; might as
well stay as you have the rest of eternity to be dead.
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From: guest (why the ending like this)
, 98 months, post #118 |
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From: guest
, 98 months, post #119 |
I think that more or less matches the original book and presumably
the earlier Japanese movies. Anyway, I don't think it affects the
afterlife, just Earth and the people there.
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From: guest (Ray)
, 98 months, post #120 |
In case anyone is confused by the ending, I am posting my own
theory here. I might be wrong and anyone could disagree and come up
with their own theory.
1. Who is Hong Nan doppelganger? Is she related to Gi Tak?
Yes, I think she is Gi Tak. This girl wasn't shown to be existed in
the original timeline where Gi Tak exists. So, she probably only
exists in the new timeline where Gi Tak doesn't exist. It's
reasonable to assume that the non-existence of Gi Tak lead to
several changes in this new timeline (more of the changes below).
So, one of the changes that the non-existence of Gi Tak bring about
is that this girl, who otherwise would not be born in the original
timeline, was born in the new timeline. The soul assigned to this
body is the soul which would otherwise be assigned to Gi Tak. Since
he was never born in this timeline, the soul was assigned to this
girl instead. There are enough hints being thrown that this girl is
Gi Tak inside. The way she adjusts her dress etc.
2. Yi Yeon's career?
In the original timeline, Yi Yeon was shown struggling to standing
on her own feet and had difficulties relaunching her acting career
after the divorce with Cha Jae Guk. It didn't help that Cha Jae Guk
was out to sabotage her career. In the new timeline, she maintains
her status as top actress. When the divorce with Jae Guk happened,
it didn't struck her as hard as it was in the original timeline. So
what causes the change? We can only guess. Maybe her relationship
with Gi Tak in the original timeline caused her to yearn for a
stable family life and thus she decided to scaling down her career
after she get married. In the new timeline without the relationship
with Gi Tak, Yi Yeon is a different person and she remains the top
dog in the industry. Or maybe in the original timeline it was Cha
Jae Guk who sabotaged Yi Yeon career post-divorce. In the new
timeline without Gi Tak, Jae Guk maintains cordial relationship
with Yi Yeon post-divorce and didn't set out to destroy her.
p/s: I like Jae Guk in the new timeline. He is still a jerk but a
nicer one.
3. Why is Na Seok Cheol remains dead but Seung Jae alive?
In the original timeline, Seung Jae was badly wounded and probably
wouldn't survive for long. In the new timeline he is doing ok and
even begin to do the same job as Yi Yeon manager/bodyguard, only
that he is perhaps a few months late compared to the original
timeline, and he is also bringing Jegil with him along in the new
timeline (Or is it Jegil has worked there even earlier than Seung
Jae? it is not clear). But Na Seok Cheol remains dying from the
same "accident" even though the non-existence of Gi Tak supposedly
change the dynamic in the triad completely and the incident outside
Gi Tak's house which led to Na Seok Cheol death probably wouldn't
have happen in the first place! Even if the similar incident still
occurred, how was Young Soo and Da Hye being able to beat Na Seok
Cheol without Gi Tak's help? And even killing him? I have no answer
for this. This is the classic "grandpa paradox", a common problem
in time travel stories. If you travel to the past and kill you
grandpa, you would not exist. But if you don't exist, you wouldn't
be able to travel to the past and kill you grandpa, so you would
still exist and you would still able to travel to the past and kill
your grandpa......
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