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Ultimate Spider-Man: "The Spider-Verse"
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Spider-man travels to another dimension where everyone's genders are swapped.
Goblin uses Electro to power up the siege perilous to collect the DNA of other Spider-Men. Spider-Man follows Goblin and boosts the confidence of Spider-Man 2099 and helps Spider-Girl to defeat Norma Osborn.
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From: guest (Jaden32)
, 101 months, post #1 |
In Part 1 of The Spider-Verse Spiderman travels to another
dimension where everyone's gender is swapped.
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From: cj
, 101 months, post #2 |
Thanks for the heads-up Jaden32!
Now the question is... should your pending submission for this one
( http://metamorphose.org/entry/show.htp?historyid=15953&se0=entry_history&se1=show&sas=se0%3Dentry_history%26se1%3Dunapproved
) be added to the database or not.
Since Spidey travels to another dimension, there's no actual TF or
disguise or illusion. The people there are simply opposite gendered
from the normal universe. So, we need to decide if it counts for
inclusion here since there is no actual TF, nor is an illusion or
dream of a TF. Paul's Guidelines for inclusion in the database are
on the Guidelines
page.
Opinions?
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From: guest (BarackObrahma)
, 101 months, post #3 |
I think it counts, since the TF happens to eyes of the beholder
(ie, we!), not necessarily those participating in the story.
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From: guest
, 101 months, post #4 |
Agreed---even if it may seem normal to that universe, to me it's a
transformed version of a character I know, and I'm interested in
seeing it. So it should be in the database.
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From: cj
, 101 months, post #5 |
Thanks for your input so far.
We'll leave this thread open for more comments and opinions over
the weekend.
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From: guest
, 101 months, post #6 |
There are already similar cases in the database; see the entries
for Superman #349, Superman/Batman #24, Sliders: Double Cross, and
probably a bunch more that I'm not thinking about.
On the other hand, the gender-bent episode of Adventure Time isn't
in the database. *shrug*
This is certainly a borderline case. Were this a smaller database,
I would say it probably shouldn't be included. Since this site's
database is so large, though, and since it's of tangential interest
to people who are interested in transformation, and since there's
precedence for this kind of entry, I say it should be included
(albeit with a note stating that it's not an actual transformation
but an alternate reality).
A thought: as BarackObrahma says, the transformation is in the eyes
of the beholder. The beholder, in this case, isn't just us; it's
Spider-Man. To his eyes, it's sort of like everyone in the world
except for him has undergone a "poof" transformation, and he's the
only one who's aware of the transformation. I'd say the fact that
we have Spider-Man to witness the gender-bending and react to it
(unlike, say, the Adventure Time episode, which also involves a
completely gender-bent alternate reality but doesn't give us a
witness to the gender-bending) pushes it over the line.
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From: guest (nedpals)
, 101 months, post #7 |
Message deleted by cj. off-topic |
From: cj
, 101 months, post #8 |
Message deleted by cj. off-topic |
From: guest
, 100 months, post #9 |
Some of us are interested in seeing it, so it should be here.
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From: cj
, 100 months, post #10 |
With only one dissenting view (mine) in a month's time... I
approved it last night / early this morning.
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From: barackobrahma
, 100 months, post #11 |
CJ, you know that besides that, we still love you, right?
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From: cj
, 100 months, post #12 |
:-)
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