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MtF + FtM no "poof" [ TF process ~IS~ shown / detailed]
From: guest (Pandaman) , 104 months, post #1
Hi!

I'm looking for materials including both MtF and FtM while avoiding the classical "poof" body swap scenario (ie. without process).

Bonus point for body parts swap. Bonus point if it involves a couple.

Here are some examples:
- https://tgcomics.com/tgc/comics/infinite-stories-1/ (all time favorite)
- http://g.e-hentai.org/g/39688/a5a1a21965/
- https://archive.loveisover.me/foolfuuka/boards/d/image/1375/04/1375046235701.gif
- http://tservo96.deviantart.com/art/Husband-and-Wife-Bodyswap-469010143

Any ideas?

Thanks!

From: guest (Summat) , 104 months, post #2
There's a some great sequences on Sapphire Foxx's website. Only issue is, you'd need to pay a five dollar subscriber fee to get to them. If that's not much of a sacrifice for you, then I'll let you know which ones to go for.

From: guest (Pandaman) , 104 months, post #3
Thanks Summat!

What should I look for?

From: guest (Summat) , 104 months, post #4
Right, here's a list from highest to lowest. The best examples beyond a shadow of a doubt would be Fun In The Sun and The Great Jason Maverick. If you see any double switches on the site, then see them, and you won't be disappointed.

The series Stealing From Sister starts with a MTF (But with some crossdress, which I personally don't particularly enjoy), and at Part 10 has an FTM which I attribute to kick-starting my interest in that particular kind of TG. (The Deviantart version had a show of nipples here, and as far as I know it still does, but that's been censored for the website after a snafu with the advertisers)

Halloween Switch has a couple perfectly disguised as the opposite gender. Again, it's crossdress, which isn't my cup of tea, but from the way the story is headed, there could be a transformative twist near the end

The only one I really wouldn't recommend is Mixed Up, which focused on the MTF, and just has a passing glimpse of the FTM.

From: guest , 104 months, post #5
"Poof"... isn't that a derogatory pommie word for a gay man?

From: guest (Summat) , 104 months, post #6
It's also an onomatopoeia for a puff of smoke, which is almost certainly what he meant. Lighten up, would you?

From: guest , 104 months, post #7
Don't be such a wise ass Summit. It's an understandable mistake especially given the context. Hatred anywhere needs to be called out, otherwise ignorance reigns supreme.

From: guest (Summat) , 104 months, post #8
Yes, ignorance and hatred does need calling out, but overzealously pursuing a cause damages its credibility, and allows even more ignorance and hatred to breed under the guise of goodwill.

The context here is "avoiding the classical "poof" body swap scenario (ie. without process)" So I'm sorry, but I really don't think that mistake is understandable.

From: cj , 104 months, post #9
"Pommie" isn't that a derogatory name, referring to a person from Great Britain?

But I think that may have been the first time I'd heard of "poof" as a derogatory name for a gay man.

I'm all for more tolerance, understanding, and respect between the people on this orbiting rock... still, I'm concerned that we (society) are beginning to become overly sensitive and so politically correct, that everything becomes offensive... even in the absence of intent.

Though it is often difficult to determine intent from a short text-based message, I agree with Summat's reading / understanding... based on "... while avoiding the classical "poof" body swap scenario (ie. without process)." in the original post.

From: cj , 104 months, post #10
I really need to learn to type faster.

From: guest , 104 months, post #11
Why it is understandable to take poof as derogatory in this context is often trans people are mixed in or even confused with gay people, so a title with FtM, and MtF, with the word poof in it can easily be taken the wrong way, as implying you don't want any homosexuality in the story. It would be like using the word f*g at the end of "MtF + FtM no..." (to imply you don't like smoking elements in your stories) and mean a cigarette, and then be taken back and surprised when people take it in the wrong way.

And yep CJ in Britain Poof is a derogatory word for a gay man, it's tantamount to using the word f*g here in the States.

From: guest , 104 months, post #12
In the TF community, "Poof" has always meant "instant transformation"

From: guest (Pandaman) , 104 months, post #13
Poof = onomatopoeia = instant TF without process as commonly accepted in the TF community.

;-)

From: guest (Summat) , 104 months, post #14
Well, now that THAT's over, I hope you enjoy my recommendations, Pandaman. Why not let us know what you think in this thread?

From: guest (Pandaman) , 104 months, post #15
I will!

Thanks again Summat!

Does anyone else have suggestions?

From: guest (leon) , 104 months, post #16
This might be up your alley:
The Mirror by Cajun
http://fictionmania.tv/stories/readtextstory.html?storyID=328899004356152075

And maybe this?
http://mentalcrash.deviantart.com/art/A-night-out-with-a-difference-Page-1-3-442274144

From: guest (Pandaman) , 104 months, post #17
@Summat: just read what you suggested ; this is exactly what I was looking for (even though I don't really like the graphic style)!

@leon: thanks! I'll have a look.

From: O2MO , 104 months, post #18
Most of Delta-TSF's work from pixiv contains detailed MTF transformations.

Furaffinity's StilettoPink also has detailed transformations in the art.


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