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From: guest (Jc)
, 107 months, post #1 |
(Message deleted by douchbag nazi moderater)
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From: cj
, 107 months, post #2 |
Funny Jc. No, seriously. I actually did laugh. Your post was
humorous, based on some of your recent posts and our moderation of
them.
I can only think that you are making money from directing people to
that website. There is simply NO OTHER LOGICAL reason I can
determine, why you are suddenly so violently opposed to following
the rules/guidelines (and the site owner's wishes) that HAVE BEEN
IN PLACE FOR YEARS.
If you followed the example of others who have also been posting
here for years. You would have found that mentioning the site, but
NOT directly linking to the content, MIGHT have let you slip past
(I mean, we can all Google stuff)... but your best option would
have been to find a site that LEGALLY HOSTS the content.
Since Jc needs a reminder, I will remind everyone: "I do not want this site to become a portal for copyright
infringement. This is my site and I ask that you respect my
decision on this matter. --Paul"
from this website's FAQ
page. If you post a link to copyrighted material, it will now be
under additional scrutiny from the Trusted Users, and if we can't
determine the host site's policy/procedures in dealing with
copyright infringement in a very quick manner - the post with the
link will most likely be removed.
Also, if you post something like "Free movies available from
www.website.com" - you can bet your butt that we will remove the
post (or thread). That is an advertisement, and likely goes
directly against Paul's wishes.
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From: guest (Jc)
, 107 months, post #3 |
You take this way to seriously when in reality nobody really cares.
The FBI isn't going to shut this site down on account of someone on
its message boards posting a link. You ppl are absolutely
ridiculous to not only believe that but also to waste the time of
ppl who come here and have no interest in even watching full
copyrighted materiel
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From: cj
, 107 months, post #4 |
"You take this way to seriously when in reality nobody really
cares."
Obviously, the owner of the website cares. Yes, we take breaking
the law very seriously.
I take it that you are on one of the FBI's copyright task forces
then, since your statement contradicts their mandate to enforce the
law.
"You ppl are absolutely ridiculous to not only believe that but
also to waste the time of ppl who come here and have no interest in
even watching full copyrighted materiel"
Then why the heck did you even post your link here if you feel that
way?
I guess the bottom line is this... If you don't want to FOLLOW THE RULES for using this website,
please find another website.
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From: guest (Jc)
, 107 months, post #5 |
cj the only sites that they are concerned with are the ones that
are actually disturbing copyrighted materiel for the intention of
making money off of new titles that haven't had a chance to
generate their profits before the content becomes old and less
cared for. I think I speak for most ppl who come to this site when
I say we really couldn't care for defrauding anyone or watching
full length shows/movies etc. all this talk about this site
becoming a portal for that is absurd. All we care for is the
individual parts that interest us in regards to the
transformations, tg swaps ,possession etc and not watching the
whole thing from beginning to end
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From: guest (Common Sense)
, 107 months, post #6 |
Jc did you ever stop and consider that the website owner might not
necessarily be concerned about it on legal grounds but moral ones?
Perhaps they view the advertising of stolen content as wrong?
Things don't have to be illegal for people to not support them or
be against them. Not wanting to support stolen content and theft is
to me a good enough reason not to allow links to the content or
places where people can get it.
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From: Lady Sekhmet
, 107 months, post #7 |
This site has been around for many MANY years and this has always
been the policy. Perhaps that's WHY it still exists today.
Not sure I really understand why anyone might feel slighted simply
because they can't use this website for their own personal
advertising.
It's a losing battle of course, but at least we try and we will
continue to do so.
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From: paul
, 107 months, post #8 |
This is not the first time this compliant about posting links has
come up. If you are having a hard time thinking about in terms of
copyright, consider it in terms on common decency. If a person or
group spent time and money making something and are the now selling
it, the decent thing to do is pay them for it.
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From: guest (9466)
, 107 months, post #9 |
Well Paul I understand where you're coming from to a degree.
However, as I stated before, the vast majority of people who post
links here only care for small aspects of most of these shows and
movies. When I watch transformation, possession tg swap related
material I very seldomly care for the rest of the title unless it
focuses on those aspects for the length of said media. If we were
all to pay full price for every show/movie just to watch one short
part of it that would be a pretty crazy thing to do unless you have
a lot of money burn and waste unessesarily. You're not taking Ito
account that these shows and the actors/producers extra have
already made their profits and are still getting royalties from
them and shall continue to receive them regardless. I respect those
who take part in providing that materiel but as the consumer it's
myself and the consumer of that meterial that ultimately determine
the value of
That product and not the people who
Take part in making it. I've looked for certain titles such as
strange aeons on DVD on eBay to purchase it there but they
literally want 55 dollars for it. One on amazon wants 88. Would you
pay that for a DVD? I highly doubt it
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From: guest (That Guy)
, 107 months, post #10 |
OK, admittedly I'm and old fart, but lots of people on this site
and most others act as if they are entitled to see for free the
copyrighted works of artists who spent their time and money
creating something that they are selling. You are not. If you want
it, pay for it. If you can't afford it, hopefully the artist will
share it. If not, live with it.
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From: guest
, 107 months, post #11 |
Okay, Jc. Even if you don't care about the legal or moral aspects
of sharing links to illegal content, please realize that this is
not your site. This is Paul's site. He designed it, he's hosting
it, and we're here as his guests. He gets to set the rules. When
you're a guest in someone's house, you don't break the rules he
sets for you; that's just common courtesy.
I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that, if Paul has let you
attend his house party, you show a modicum of respect and gratitude
toward him and not, you know, stomp all over his floor with your
muddy boots if he asks you not to.
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From: guest (RikJohnson)
, 107 months, post #12 |
<< If you are having a hard time thinking about in terms of
copyright, consider it in terms on common decency. If a person or
group spent time and money making something and are the now selling
it, the decent thing to do is pay them for it.>>
Agreed.
Some guy in Ebay had a habit of downloading my writings, the
nselling the ecopy on Ebay for cash.
When I complained to him, he laughed.
When I complained to ebay, they ignored me.
So I acept and agree with the listowners rules.
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From: hskfmn
, 107 months, post #13 |
> "This is Paul's site. He designed it, he's hosting it, and
we're here as his guests. He gets to set the rules. When you're a
guest in someone's house, you don't break the rules he sets for
you; that's just common courtesy"
Thank you! Exactly! This is only really partially about the
argument of linking to copyrighted stuff, the other part of course
is, as stated, this is not YOUR site. This is not YOUR house. When
you go to someone else's house, you play by the home owner's rules,
and if you don't like the rules, you are more than welcome to
leave.
This is Paul's website. He hosts it out of the goodness of his
heart. We are guests here, and he has never asked us for a penny to
support it. So please, show some respect and be good house guests.
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From: guest (Kara)
, 107 months, post #14 |
The current generation was raised by the Internet and this has led
them to feel entitled to...well...just about everything in life.
Everything on the Ne t is free and exists soley for their use (it
doesn't). Therefore, life should mirror the Net and we should be
able to take whatever we want and anyone who disagrees is a
corporate Nazi trying to monopolize information and
keep it from the masses who shouldn't have to pay for
it....blahblahblah.
corporate nazi
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From: guest (Guest2000)
, 107 months, post #15 |
Maybe the answer is a message board with titles
of movies/programs and links of where to buy
them.
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From: cj
, 107 months, post #16 |
"Maybe the answer is a message board with titles
of movies/programs and links of where to buy
them."
Well, we have the catalog / database... and it already has the
ability to include links. All one has to do is submit a change for
the entry. :-)
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From: guest (Jay)
, 107 months, post #17 |
I also think that the rules here dont make sense (sharing a link
isnt a crime) , but i respect the admins wishes.
So the best thing you can do is adapt or get banned
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From: hskfmn
, 107 months, post #18 |
Jey, you're right, sharing a link isn't a crime. Watching a full
streamed episode isn't a crime. I myself watch Archer
and Supernatural
on various websites that stream the shows illegally. So, I
certainly can't claim to be "part of the solution." However, we
have to look at the bigger picture.
This is the ONLY site I've found on the web that discusses this
kind of subject matter and words cannot express how grateful I am
to know of its existence or how grateful I am to Paul to hosting it
so we can all have the benefit of updating the catalog and
discussing topics on these message boards. So, is the FBI, FCC, or
MPAA looking at this specific site under a microscope? Probably
not...BUT websites DO get shut down for hosting copies of full
copyrighted material, this is just an unfortunate fact.
So, frankly if the choices are continue to enjoy all this site has
to offer, or risk getting shut down, I choose to play it safe and
keep the site running. I would hope many of you would feel the
same. So I will continue to uphold my responsibilities as one of
the moderators here, even if it makes me unpopular with a few
people, and of course, if another moderator feels I've erred in a
post deletion, they can of course overturn my decision, it's
happened before. I just want to do everything I can to help keep
this site up and running.
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From: guest (Jc)
, 107 months, post #19 |
This site
Is clearly not a site for downloading full length copyrighted
shows/movies. I've seen countless ppl over the years get fed up
with their posts being removed over petty nonsensical stuff. And
yes, a link being shared is is a trivial thing that nobody can or
will legally be able to shut this site down for. I'm almost 40 and
payed countless thousands of dollars for media legally. At
Times I payed more than the product was even worth. I don't expect
anything for free. However I refuse to pay for old media I've payed
for already that I've seen already. It's ridiculous and I'm not
going to be ripped off like that. It's like paying for basic cable
with channels that are ad sponsered like tbs, USA etc. people are
being ripped off left and right in this society. I've never seen
any artist go broke over people downloading their meterial. This is
part
Of life. Everyone downloads and steams stuff each day "illegally"
anyone here who says they do not is just a liar and a hypocrite who
needs a serious reality check. This site will never live up to its
full potential if the moderators and host keep driving them away. I
left more than a few times over the years only to return to see the
same petty things happening.
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From: hskfmn
, 107 months, post #20 |
Aaaaand once again, point...missing it...
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