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From: cj , 108 months, post #1
RE: Metamorphose Message Board thread: http://metamorphose.org/thread/show.htp?threadid=17514&page=8&se0=thread&se1=show Post # 160

I'm dragging this issue out of that thread, as it looks to be veering off the main the topic. Related, but not directly about.

@cj, did I miss something? As I told You
,"... I didnt public ANY DIRECT links to ANY existing digital files, especially copyrighted works..."

What for you repeat again and again that
"...the Posting Guidelines state that DIRECT links to COMPLETE copyrighted works are not permitted here..."??

I am not talking about post #126, I don't remember I asked you to reinstant it.


I have no idea if you missed something or not. I was just trying to ensure that I did not.


As you noticed right, I asked you:
"You should check it out before accusing anybody of violating rules."

As you know, as you can see at post #150 over my you wrote: "Message deleted by cj. Link to copyrighted works. You all should know better. Please read site FAQ page."
later, at post you told:
"I'm also locking this thread to guest posters. Repeated abuse of Linking to Complete Copyrighted works."

I cant understand, which direct URL to witch "copyrighted work" or either witch digital file I posted there, at post #150? Have you another info than that I told you at my post #155? Don't you wish to delete post #155? - I provided all URLs there that I provided at my post #150, even more.


Repeated attempts to link to MediaFire content after posts were removed.

Whether those linked files are deleted now or not is immaterial. You started by posting one (or was it two) links in a post that CLEARLY inferred that they were to a DVD rip of the complete movie. I'm a volunteer here, I use my free time to help keep this site from running afoul.. If you tell me that a link is to something that would "violate the rules" - I'll remove it without checking.

What exactly were you REPEATEDLY trying to post a link to?

  • Nothing - If that's the case - You can suck a damn egg, and you're on my crap-list. :-P And it doesn't really matter why the heck I removed the posed links, as they were off-topic.
  • Clips - Why didn't you say so? Or better yet, load them up to YouTube.
  • Complete Copyrighted Work - You had already inferred that you were trying to share a DVD rip in a previous post - You never clarified or questioned the removals subsequently. Well, until after I locked the thread for 24 hours (give or take).

Did I mention that we VOLUNTEER our time here - and sometimes it takes quite a bit of it. Also that one of our goals is to keep the place from being shut down and/or fined by copyright holders - again, read the site's FAQ page.

Yes, I did lock the thread for awhile. I didn't have all day to keep checking and removing threads, and I'm sure that the other Trusted Users probably didn't either. It was a time-out period for anyone trying to post links to the complete movie... and a breather for those of us who try to keep the place free from those links.

So, again what exactly were you repeatedly trying to link to? Why are you so fixated on this issue?


Ah I forgot to provide one more URL that I provided at my post #150:

HTTPS://WWW.MediaFire.Com:443/download/Id.

"In post 150, you tried to obscure the particulars of the link. I didn't bother doing the math to figure out the link. Why would you even do this if the link wasn't questionable or in violation to begin with?"

I posted what I posted to make it clear out of any illicit.


What? That doesn't make sense to me... was the final URL (after solving the math) linking to a significant portion of the copyrighted material? If it was, then it IS illicit. If it was not illicit, then why the need to obscure the link URL?


What it boils down to is this:

If you are going to link to content, don't obfuscate the link. There is NO LOGICAL REASON to obscure parts of a link... unless you're trying to hide or conceal something... and what would that be? That the link is to something that would run against the spirit of this site? Be honest, and help us make this a better place.

There are ton of places where one can indulge in helping others obtain UNAUTHORIZED complete copyrighted works. THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE PLACES! And yes, you will see those places named from time to time here. Just not links to any copyrighted material. Those other places will have a forum or search to help you.

Now, if you want to share information on where to get them LEGALLY / LEGITIMATELY... or if you want to share CLIPS (or other "Fair Use" parts) of the title. Then by all means, please share away.


You've been here long enough, and with several posts previously. Don't take any of this personally, I'm not on some vendetta against you. I'd do the same thing if it was anyone else... just as the other Trusted Users would do to any of my posts if I did the same thing.

I hope that this helps answer some of you questions. If you have any more, or need me to further clarify anything, let me know.

From: cj , 108 months, post #2
"Related, but not directly about."

Should read, "Related, but not directly about the OP."

From: cj , 108 months, post #3
"@cj, so, did I brake any existing rules twice posting this thread?"

I'm not sure what you mean.

Never mind. I've already removed the posts that I felt were (at the time) "breaking the rules"... I've seen no further "violations", yet. Though, without formatting, that long one was a bit hard to read.

To answer your earlier question... RE: re-instating the posts of your I removed earlier. I will try to re-check them when I get some time later today.

From: cj , 108 months, post #4
Post 150 of that referenced thread will NOT be reinstated. The link, when you put it together is for a torrent. That torrent is nearly 4 GB in size. That's not a "Fair Use" clip of material at that size, that would be a significant portion if not the complete video the copyrighted material.

While that link is not a direct link to the copyrighted material (as "prohibited" by the Posting Guidelines)... it is a link that goes against the spirit of the site owner's wishes, as addressed in this site's FAQ page.

If other Trusted Users feel that I am in error here, I'm sure that they'll speak up and let me know.

From: Lady Sekhmet , 108 months, post #5
An obfuscated link to copyrighted work is still a link to copyrighted work. The intent of the poster was clear and was in opposition to the site policy of prohibiting such links. Sometimes ya gotta be the bad guy and remove links like that - personally I think it was the correct action.

From: guest (Waltari) , 108 months, post #6
To simplify.
The existence of this catalog,so kindly provided and moderated for free, overcomes the simple need of viewing, or sharing, one video, in an illegal way.

The message board is simply a bonus.
A way we can interact anonimously.

Relax, take it easy and respect the rules.
don't take this site for granted.

=)

From: cj , 108 months, post #7
Thank you Lady Sekhmet and Waltari.

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