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From: guest
, 106 months, post #261 |
This movie is in release limbo. What's the point of making a movie
if it's never released?
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From: guest (Devil)
, 106 months, post #262 |
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Message deleted by cj. Uh... wrong thread or off-topic. Either way this Sam and that "Sam" are different. |
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From: guest (Honest Abe)
, 106 months, post #263 |
guest #261, it's an indie movie. It's playing the festival circuit.
Sometimes these movies only ever play the festivals and then poof
away to never be heard of again. But usually playing the festivals
is an opportunity for the filmmakers to find financing for a
release in theaters or on home video. I wouldn't be surprised if
the radio silence on Sam right now meant that they are working on a
deal to release it. But, the film industry is ephemeral, it's just
as likely that we'll never hear anything else about Sam. Hell,
there are movies produced inside the Hollywood studio system that
get made and never release. That's just the reality of the
industry.
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From: kreplach
, 106 months, post #264 |
Well said, Honest Abe. (Loved you in Gettysburg)
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From: Tuggy24g
, 106 months, post #265 |
My question is why not release it on YouTube? It would be a lot
cheaper then a DVD/blue ray release. Also more people will watch it
besides just the few who know about the movie.
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From: cj
, 106 months, post #266 |
"why not release it on YouTube?"
My guess... The producers and investors are probably looking for a
little bit of a return (financially) on their investment. They are
in business
to produce movies, after all. :-)
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From: guest
, 106 months, post #267 |
You can release films on Youtube as a legal pay to view option
through a distributor.
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From: guest (Guest2)
, 106 months, post #268 |
The impression that I get is that Sitting Cat Productions, that
produced SAM, is a New York based, small but connected, new
production company. They're looking for legitimacy so they probably
see YouTube as a small potatoes, undignified last resort. Cabin in
the Woods had Joss Whedon and Sigoureny Weaver and it dat on a
shelf for 3 years before finding distribution. River Phoenix's last
movie sat on a shelf for 20 years and Theres an infamous Jerry
Lewis Nazi movie that has never been released. Paradox Alice also
took, like, 3 years to find distribution. It sucks but that's the
reality of Independent Filmmaking
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From: cj
, 106 months, post #269 |
"You can release films on Youtube as a legal pay to view option
through a distributor"
"No Way!" I said to myself, so I did a bit of digging.
HOLY COW! How did I not know this? *sigh*
My apologies everyone.
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From: guest (vup)
, 106 months, post #270 |
That's okay, cj. I knew about youtube PPV-type dist. but not the
details. (For those who didn't: Go to the home page, look at the
left hand column for 'movies' or 'TV shows', etc. You're presented
w/ several links which sometimes ask for payment (they're usually
at the top of the page that comes up after you click ;-) but they
do have some free ones) )
I think Guest2 got it right, though, as to why Sam won't go out on
yutoob anytime soon. The financiers wanna maximize their
return/(minimize their loss) and if the studio would prefer to
avoid making a reputation out-of-the-gate as a money-losing
endeavor then it's probably actually in their best interest to be
able to claim that their "prior works" are "seeking" or (better
still) "in talks for" distribution than to admit that they made
something that can't make all (or more) of its money back and had
to resort to a "fire sale" of the commodity(ies) they produce(d).
It sounds like an interesting story but it amazes me how much
people hold out for hope against hope that this is going to happen
anytime soon. Someone else earlier in this thread said basically:
"just stop worrying about it". I agree. If it happens, it happens.
If not, then you're just disappointing yourself for how many months
or years to come?
- notbeingcynicaljustpractical
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From: guest (Jayzie)
, 106 months, post #271 |
This reminds me of life. You really like this girl and you want to
go out with her. You fantasize about her for months, even a year,
wondering "should I finally ask her out?" So you do and it goes
HORRIBLY.
And you spend months obsessing about what a loser you see yourself
as and how you didn't see the red flags, or didn't realize how
audacious you were being.
That sums up life perfectly.
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From: cj
, 106 months, post #272 |
"And you spend months obsessing about what a loser you see yourself
as and how you didn't see the red flags, or didn't realize how
audacious you were being."
With any luck, you'll get past having this nonsense-stage, and then
realize that even the "perfect" girl... "the one", has
imperfections, and that there are so many women out there, that
based on numbers alone, many women should come close to being a
perfect match. Perhaps it is one of those many, with whom you will
connect... or two... or three. Or perhaps you (and all of them)
will simply choose to forego the typical arrangements.
No matter those choices, the best choice for you (regarding the
horrible experience) is to learn from it, grow in wisdom, and
achieve happiness through a more mutual relationship.
For, acquiring absolute perfection in a world filled with imperfect
people is like living in a magical forest filled with unicorns,
dragons, wizards, fairies, and a menagerie of wild creatures... all
living in utopic peace and tranquility. It is simply a dream that
cannot be realized outside the imagination of men.
Or something like that. :-)
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From: guest
, 105 months, post #273 |
Is the premise of Sam realistic in the sense of two male friends
falling in love after one of them is turned into a woman? Wouldn't
the guy that didn't become a woman always picture his friend who is
now a woman as his former male self? Just seems very awkward to me.
Why do they have to fall in love? Why can't the "new" woman just be
single?
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From: cj
, 105 months, post #274 |
I'd spoiler-alert this post... but previous post(s)... so if you
haven't read the previous posts, you might want to skip this one
too.
"Is the premise of Sam realistic in the sense of two male friends
falling in love after one of them is turned into a woman?"
Yes, it is plausible. See my answer to your next question.
"Wouldn't the guy that didn't become a woman always picture his
friend who is now a woman as his former male self?"
That is possible. It is also possible that the two each see the
other as more than just a friend or even best friend... but as
someone whom they want to spend the rest of their life with. That's
what I look for in a lasting relationship... well that and "Is she
someone I could tolerate waking up next to every morning and
spending the rest of my days being close to?" :-)
"Just seems very awkward to me. Why do they have to fall in love?
Why can't the "new" woman just be single?"
That could have happened too, it is a plausible scenario. Though
most people I know seem to have this unyielding desire to NOT be
alone... sometimes ending up married (and divorced) multiple times
while trying to find that right soulmate (or what-have-you). The
"new" woman falling in love probably drives better ticket sales
(just a guess)... and that's how I'd like to see it end. That it's
the friend, nice touch, IMO.
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From: guest (CJ)
, 104 months, post #275 |
Well I don't know if anyone else has any updated info, noticed its
been awhile since anyone posted on this thread. However, I noticed
a user "nickbrooks72" (don't know if it's actually nicholas brooks
account or not) posted an answer to a question about release
stating Early '16 about 5 days ago. So, I would assume that is a
potential DVD or streaming service release. You can see the post
here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1309379/board/nest/226551632?ref_=tt_bd_3
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From: cj
, 104 months, post #276 |
Thanks for the new (hopefully accurate / correct) information, (not
me) CJ.
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From: guest (Saint)
, 104 months, post #277 |
Oh cool. I bet that was the real Nick Brooks. So we can look
forward to SAM and THE SEX TRIP in early 2016
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From: guest (Works For Me)
, 104 months, post #278 |
"Wouldn't the guy that didn't become a woman always picture his
friend who is now a woman as his former male self?"
That would be a major turn on for me. Women I am attracted too, I
imagine them once being men and are trapped now as a women.
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From: Tuggy24g
, 104 months, post #279 |
Wait a second Saint. What is sec trip? This is new to me
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From: guest (Valkan)
, 104 months, post #280 |
More info on sex trip is on the message board. Got its own thread.
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