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From: guest (Robbie)
, 125 months, post #21 |
Yes, I never understood why he wore heels as Lola either. Post #18-
It was a two sided curse. Pepa had to find love and so did Lalo. If
Lalo and Pepa married, they would stay in each other's bodies as
they were not in love. Eventually Pepa and Justin fell in love, but
it was not enough until Grace eventually fell for Lalo and the
spell was broken for both.
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From: guest
, 125 months, post #22 |
Wow, I guess I'm an idiot. I never knew that about the curse. I
also think it's funny how Lalo complained 24/7 if he was in a dress
or skirt but had no problems with heels. There was that one time in
which he tried to seduce Simon(Grace's boyfriend) and seemed okay
wearing a tight knee length black dress. Weird that he would
basically act like a piece of meat since he always hated men
flirting with him and hitting on him when he was female.
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From: guest
, 109 months, post #23 |
"Can someone explain to me how Margot and Gosha got married in
Margosha? Weren't they pretending to be relatives? I never
understood that. I also never understood how Lalo tried to marry
Pepa in the Chile Lola since according to Lalo, they are trying to
pass themselves off as cousins. Incest?"
Only seen parts of the show recently but the gist of what I worked
out was that when Margot initially turned up at work, she said she
was Gorsha's cousin. This got complicated when her parents visited
and obviously expected to see Gorsha, so she had to get her former
male body with the new occupant pretend to be her (follow me so
far?). Obviously her parents would know she wasn't Gorsha's cousin,
so she told them about the remarkable co-incidence that they had
the same surname when they met (at that point, her parents think
they're engaged but in fact she's still in a relationship with
Andrei [Facundo equivalent - he's not happy with the whole
situation but goes along with it.
Anyway, her parents leave and the charade is over and Gorsha leaves
but for some reason a few episodes later, Margot gets him a job at
her own company with him pretending to be herself. She teaches him
how to do the job. At some point I guess Andrei has enough and
leaves (and in no longer on the show or the opening credits).
Somewhere along the line, Margot's parents return and find her
passport which has a different last name to what she told them
(something like Alexandra, not Regrova, her original body's name
was Igor Regrov) and that causes some kind of drama but it all gets
sorted out somehow and they end up getting married at the end of
the third season and the show ends. Presumably at some point she
told her workplace they weren't really cousins but she said that at
the time to convince them to let her do the presentation in the
first episode as she was a complete stranger to them or something
like that.
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From: guest
, 109 months, post #24 |
"why didn't Lalo just abort? Or is that taboo in Chile? I mean why
should he be punished for Pepa and Justin's mistakes? And when Lalo
tried to marry Pepa when they were in each other's bodies, why
didn't Lalo just marry Justin instead?"
The law in Chile presently (and since 1989) is that abortion is
illegal with absolutely no exceptions of any kind.
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From: Holly Dunn
, 84 months, post #25 |
@guest post #23
I was looking through my Margosha videos today, and thought I would
look up some of the threads associated with it. Missed your
question from two years ago.
Margosha has 3 seasons made up of 60, 90, and 90 episodes each.
Gosha had two sets of lies going.... 1) That in the woman's body he
was Gosha's female cousin, and 2) When Gosha's real parents show
up, Gosha claims to be his own fiance. Then, the new Margo finds
her Gosha body inhabited by the female soul. Gosha body is
discovered visiting the apartment and has to return to work. The
parents insist on him getting married or his inheritance is gone.
So it all unravels.
The lies break up Margosha and Andrei, even though she has fallen
madly in love with Andrei. It is quite a twist, unique to this
Lalola telling I think.
For those of you with access to season one... Episode 29 I somehow
missed. The new Margo loses a bet with office rival Anton and has
to do an impromptu photo shoot in her apartment. She even takes off
her shirt (not her bra) and poses in her bed.
Lots to love in Margosha.
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From: guest (Andrei FTW)
, 84 months, post #26 |
I don't know why this Russian version of Lalola has to paired her
up with another guy (the woman who inhabited her original, not
less!). I always like the dynamic between Lola & Facundo & I am sad
& mad because the writers in the Russian version teared them apart!
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From: Holly Dunn
, 84 months, post #27 |
Once the "Lalola" started dating the "Facundo" she was pretty much
in full female mode in most versions. In Lalola Philippines in was
Episode 9. Major identity death.
In Russian Margosha, at the end of season 2 (Episode #150), she was
on her way to her engagement party in a ball gown when she ran into
her former body and chickened out doubting herself thinking there
might still be a way back.
It set a tragedy in motion as she her love through season 3 and
resisted the affections of the person in her former male body. Even
though it did a short wrap up in episode 90 seeming happy, she
rejected any other male besides Andrei until the end.
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From: guest (Andrei FTW)
, 84 months, post #28 |
That is really unnecessary diversion from the original. Some
versions are different too, but we know it's different from the
beginning. This one teased us & make us believe it will more or
less faithful adaptation but then threw a surprise bomb! It is
really cruel. I know it was primarily made for Russian audience who
never watch other Lalolas, but for people like us who watched
different versions of Lalolas, we were duped to believe it would be
the same sweet ending but we ended up disappointed. booo.
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From: Holly Dunn
, 84 months, post #29 |
Near the end of season 2 they were all set for the wedding, That
would have been episode 150. Guessing it was popular enough they
renewed it and they needed a storyline for 90 more episodes. What
was disappointing for me was the new Margot never got affectionate
to the new Gosha, seemed to still love Andrei, but married new
Gosha anyway. Margot and Gosha didn't do anything romantically
until episode 90. Guessing again, but maybe they intended another
season. New Margot never got involved romantically with anyone but
Andrei in any episode of 240 episodes.
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From: Air Gear
, 84 months, post #30 |
There's like 14 different versions of this show. Nice to see
something a bit different for one of them. Also, it's a fine
Russian tradition with everything from Married With Children to
this where after they exhaust the source material, they just keep
on going.
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From: Holly Dunn
, 84 months, post #31 |
Here is a moment from Margosha I never saw or forgot about:
Season 01 Episode 29--Margot loses a bet to male office rival and
has to do an impromptu photoshoot in her apartment. She even takes
her shirt off. She looks annoyed, but pissed off sexy. She flips
her hair and poses real sexy. It is brief but really good.
The original Lalola also does this in Episode 29. She is wearing a
better costume, but really comes across as goofy, imho, and it it
isn't anywhere near as sexy.
I checked Bhaskar Bharti, and Lalola Peru and could not find a
similar scene in any episode near 29. Anyone know of any versions
that have this scene?
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From: guest (Bud)
, 84 months, post #32 |
I'm not sure of the episode number but I think the Peru Lalola does
a scene like that. I think the Lola in that one has to wear a short
school girl skirt for a photoshoot for the Gaston character and the
Lola in that one does not like it lol.
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From: guest (huh)
, 84 months, post #33 |
so this is the same story and show in each series, just different
cast members and language? wow, I won't even watch true story
movies because i know the story
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From: Air Gear
, 84 months, post #34 |
Not exactly. Some are similar but a number of them end up being
radically different. They mostly start out quite similar to the
original premise but notable standouts that veer off in quite
different directions include Portugal, Chile, Russia, India,
Indonesia and the Philippines.
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From: Air Gear
, 79 months, post #35 |
I'm bumping this thread because it's just about to drop off the 20
pages of most recent posts and I want it to be easy to find as a
reference for the big thread where we're working our way through
them all because there's a lot in here not in the other one.
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