From: guest (guest)
, 124 months, post #121 |
That is Allie Schulz who plays Melissa talking with Sam. It first
is Lucille Sharp who plays Margaret. YOu can see her again in the
last pic posing with Schulz.
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From: guest
, 124 months, post #122 |
I'm sorry about going off on a rant about gender equality. I just
think that the best way to end gender equality is stop associating
feelings with gender. The same could be said for race. Yes, I know
people aren't perfect and they stereotype. I have been guilty of
stereotyping millions of times. I want to shut up about this
sensitive issue but it is just mind boggling to me. We see a woman
and just automatically label that woman as a fragile weak being
that needs to be rescued by a man. I just don't get it. Anyways, I
hope this movie gets made because I want to see how it turns out
and if it will be a good piece of film.
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From: guest (rush)
, 124 months, post #123 |
Men's and women's bodies were designed by either god or evolution
to do different things. Why is that such a controversial thing to
say when everyone on some level knows it to be the truth?
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From: guest
, 124 months, post #124 |
That logic is sexist. You are saying that a person's private parts
dictate what they can and can't do. You are basically making a
predetermined judgment without even given the person a chance.
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From: guest (thesaint)
, 124 months, post #125 |
Since the movie is about a man experiencing what it's like to be a
woman it'll be really interesting to see how the filmmakers portray
and contrast gender roles. I don't think they'll make Sam "weak" �
needing Doc to save her � but that football scene seems to be about
Doc's new feelings for Samantha. It's showing how feels the need to
to stand up for his friend who is now a woman. The scene is more
about the lengths people will go to when friendship turns into
love. When you love someone you want to protect them. I don't know
if that's sexist or if it's instinct.
This reminds me of a scene from a tv show. There's an episode of
Louie C.K.'s show Louie where he's on a blind date and he gets
heckled by some teenagers. The woman that's with Louie admits that
Louie did the right thing by not punching the kid but she says she
can't get over how she just wanted him to "be a man" and punch the
kid. She ends the date because Louie being mature was a real turn
off. That struck me as completely illogical and sexist and true.
Humanity has a long way to go.
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From: guest
, 124 months, post #126 |
Guest #122 and #124 - you can't just assert - out of political
correctness - that the genders are equal regarding physical
strength and speed when all evidence is to the contrary.
The major sports leagues - NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB have never, and WILL
never, have a female team member. A female MMA champion will NEVER
be able to defeat a male MMA champion, regardless of weight class.
If you "just don't get it" then you're a complete idiot.
Males and females are -- thankfully -- beautifully and wonderfully
different. Thank heavens we're different. Not just in the area of
genitals, but mentally and physically in hundreds of different
ways. This thread is about the movie SAM. Please stop trying to
hijack it with your bizarre and idiotic diatribes about "gender
equality." Start another thread if you like but leave this thread
to news about SAM.
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From: guest (thesaint)
, 124 months, post #127 |
Wow. They started shooting SAM on Monday and they're still shooting
it today. Most of the cast and crew are twitter shy - or working
too hard - but I'm grateful that there have been tidbits and images
being posted almost every day. Seeing that 1rst image of Margaret
and Sam enacting that scene from the audition script was awesome.
For so long I thought this movie was never going to get made.
Here's hoping it lives up to expectations.
Here's a picture of April Wilkner on the set. She's playing
Stephanie. She's sitting next to Allie Schulzie who plays Melissa.
She's a model for the agency that Sam works for. The script says:
Stephanie slams the door. Sam turns away. The very next scene is
the one with Margaret following Sam.
http://instagram.com/p/jDnz6niL_E/
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From: guest (rush)
, 124 months, post #128 |
Women CAN'T play tackle football with men unless it's a position
that seldom gets hit like the kicker. There was a female 3rd string
quarterback for a high-school team who went in a couple of times to
close a game out but this was mostly just gimmick and a show. Then
I remember there was this black girl who hardly even looked like a
girl who did actually have a position in high school football that
involved tackling. She was not really attractive and was seemingly
only a female on the most technical level. But these exceptions are
extremely rare. Women CAN'T play tackle football with men. They can
do a million other things in this world but they CAN'T play tackle
football with men. And a universe where women could play tackle
football is not one where I would want to live. They would be
mannishly repulsive creatures.
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From: guest (thesaint)
, 124 months, post #129 |
Can we drop this line of discussion until after the movie comes
out?
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From: guest
, 124 months, post #130 |
Amen, rush. I think - I hope - that SAM takes the tone that BOTH
women and men are great, in their own, very DIFFERENT ways. That
difference is endlessly fascinating. As the French say, "vive la
difference." Samantha and Doc get to experience that wonderful
difference, together, as a love story. And THAT is what could make
SAM a highly successful movie. Both financially and artistically.
It is not going to be just another cliché
falling-over-in-high-heels movie, its going to be about the almost
magical difference between women and men. And how one person makes
the incredible journey from male to female. I believe THAT is why
so many people are fired up about SAM.
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From: guest
, 124 months, post #131 |
Oops, yes sure thesaint. I'll restrict my comments only to actual
news I hear about SAM. I don't think I can beat you to the punch
regarding any SAM news though.
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From: guest (thesaint)
, 124 months, post #132 |
Is there a slow transformation in SAM? Are these picture a clue?
http://instagram.com/p/jFW10dCL-3/
http://instagram.com/p/jFXKPKCL_T/
It's probably just me but for a second I thought it looked like Sam
was shrinking while on his date. His suit looks too big on him and
April is giving him a look.
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From: guest (thesaint)
, 124 months, post #133 |
Actually, Guest I might have been a little quick to snap.
I really like the commentary on post 130.
I just worry about a heated argument breaking out over a filmmakers
portrayal of women. I think this film will show a positive portrait
of friendships and romance. I don't want anybody to fight but share
in my excitement for this movie.
: )
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From: guest
, 124 months, post #134 |
I was the commenter on post #130. But I agree thesaint, this film
looks like it will be a positive portrait of friendship and
romance, in a new and fascinating context. Heated arguments are not
warranted. My hope is that SAM will be a positive, original, and
uplifting experience for everyone. Period.
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From: guest (thesaint)
, 124 months, post #135 |
Samantha, The Barfly and director Nick Brooks
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From: guest (thesaint)
, 124 months, post #136 |
http://i42.tinypic.com/2ms57hs.jpg
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From: guest (thesaint)
, 124 months, post #137 |
I'm guessing this is post transformation but pre-makeover. That
suit and blouse look like they fit her (not a Sam suit) but it's
terribly unfashionable. Plus, no make-up. This looks like the type
of clothing that would make a big wig in fashion like Lulu demand a
make-over; mentioned in the audition script.
I feel really lucky to have found this picture. Not only is it cool
to see pictures comparing Samantha from the beginning to the end of
the story, but I swear this is the first picture I've ever found of
director and co-writer Nicholas Brooks.
Man, they must really be shooting a lot of scenes.
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From: guest
, 124 months, post #138 |
I wasn't trying to start anything. I just think that emotions can
be a bad thing. I'm not saying that people should be robots when it
comes to emotions. I am just saying that humanity would be a lot
better if individuals had better control of their emotions and
feelings and sometimes it would be better to live life with your
mind and use logic. Yes, I may sound like a Vulcan or a person from
the movie Equilibrium but what I'm saying is true. Racism, sexism,
and ageism and any other type of ism are a result of people
associating their own feelings to something and making it negative.
I just wish that people would admit that they are okay with a
little sexism and racism. When you say that a woman cannot play in
the NFL or fight a man in the Octagon, that is sexism to me. Give
the woman a chance if she is willing to take it. And I can't stand
hearing the whole "men will grope women" excuse. How do we know
that there aren't gay male athletes in the closet that have been
aroused by male athletes because of physical contact? I am not
perfect and I've had my fair share of losing control of my emotions
but if there was a way to control my emotions and possibly suppress
them, I'd be willing to take a chance on it.
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From: guest
, 124 months, post #139 |
Guest #139, you're an idiot. No one is saying a woman is NOT
ALLOWED to play in the NFL. What is being said is that NO WOMAN HAS
THE ABILITY TO !!!! If any woman had the ability to play in the
NFL, trust me, she would play. The NFL is built on results. On
winning. Every team would gladly welcome any woman with the ability
to play. No woman plays in the NFL because they don't have the
ABILITY. There is zero sexism involved. Women are too weak, too
slow, and too fragile to make it in the NFL. That's not sexism,
that's FACT. And btw, emotions are a beautiful thing. Advocating a
less emotional world - meaning less love, less kindness, less
caring - goes even further to display your idiocy. One of the great
things about SAM is that it's goal is so be a ROMANTIC comedy.
Romantic, as in emotion.
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From: guest
, 124 months, post #140 |
Oops, typo, I think I just called myself an idiot. In the post
above I meant to write "Guest #138, you're an idiot." I guess we
both are!
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